mobile org problems

mobile org problems

[Richard Riley]

I am using an scpc tramp url for my moble org directory. When I do a
mobile push, why does emacs or mobileorg keep asking me for to select
coding system (default raw)? Also, why does it delete/chmod the
mobileorg.org file on my webdav server? After the initial push/pull the
next push then fails after I sync from my iphone - the iPhone uses
webdav to connect which recreate mobileorg.org(or any org files) with
permissions 640 and owned by www-data and not my user - the www-data
group cant write to it next time I try to push.

Any pointers or commenst from other mobileorg/webdav users appreciated.

Re: mobile org problems

[Richard Riley]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> I am using an scpc tramp url for my moble org directory. When I do a
> mobile push, why does emacs or mobileorg keep asking me for to select
> coding system (default raw)? Also, why does it delete/chmod the
> mobileorg.org file on my webdav server? After the initial push/pull the
> next push then fails after I sync from my iphone - the iPhone uses
> webdav to connect which recreate mobileorg.org(or any org files) with
> permissions 640 and owned by www-data and not my user - the www-data
> group cant write to it next time I try to push.
>
> Any pointers or commenst from other mobileorg/webdav users appreciated.
>

Or to ask another way, is anyone successfully using mobileorg with
iPhone using webdav on a regular basis and if so could you share your
setup please.

Re: mobile org problems

[Greg Troxel]

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I use MobileOrg with webdav, both remote over ssh/tramp, and locally
(two separate setups).

On the ssh one:

(setq org-mobile-directory "/ssh:foo.example.org:/usr/home/gdt/ORG")
(setq org-mobile-inbox-for-pull
      (concat org-directory "/from-mobile.org"))
(setq org-mobile-use-encryption t)
(setq org-mobile-encryption-password "password")

But, the tricky part is dealing with permissions.

Basically, the webdav world seems to want you to only access it via
webdav, and joint filesystem and webdav access is troublesome.

My remote directory is (on NetBSD, which I think inherits gid even
without the SysV-style sgid directory):

drwxrws---  2 gdt  www  512 Mar  2 09:08 ORG/

and I run this script from cron every 5 minutes:

#!/bin/sh
cd /home/gdt/ORG

find . -type f \! -group www | while read f; do
    echo -n "GROUP "; ls -l $f
    chgrp www $f
done
find . -type f -name mobileorg\* \! -perm -220 | while read f; do
    echo -n "MODE "; ls -l $f
    chmod g+w $f
done



An alternative would be to have a webdav fs on the machine with the org
files, and to use that to write to the webdav area.

My webdav setup is straightforward apache.



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Re: mobile org problems

[Greg Troxel]

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I should have pointed out the causes of the two problems the script
resolves:

  ssh tramp at least sometimes preserves gid, and the gid on my org
  machine is an allowed gid on the webdav server, so files can end up
  with my normal gid instead of www.

  when mobileorg.org is rewritten by org (after pull), it ends up 644
  gdt.www, but then MobileOrg can't write it.

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Re: mobile org problems

[Richard Riley]

Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com> writes:

> I use MobileOrg with webdav, both remote over ssh/tramp, and locally
> (two separate setups).
>
> On the ssh one:
>
> (setq org-mobile-directory "/ssh:foo.example.org:/usr/home/gdt/ORG")
> (setq org-mobile-inbox-for-pull
>       (concat org-directory "/from-mobile.org"))
> (setq org-mobile-use-encryption t)
> (setq org-mobile-encryption-password "password")
>
> But, the tricky part is dealing with permissions.
>
> Basically, the webdav world seems to want you to only access it via
> webdav, and joint filesystem and webdav access is troublesome.
>

Yup. This was my issue too.

> My remote directory is (on NetBSD, which I think inherits gid even
> without the SysV-style sgid directory):
>
> drwxrws---  2 gdt  www  512 Mar  2 09:08 ORG/
>
> and I run this script from cron every 5 minutes:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> cd /home/gdt/ORG
>
> find . -type f \! -group www | while read f; do
>     echo -n "GROUP "; ls -l $f
>     chgrp www $f
> done
> find . -type f -name mobileorg\* \! -perm -220 | while read f; do
>     echo -n "MODE "; ls -l $f
>     chmod g+w $f
> done

Aha. I didnt think it could work "out of the box". Thanks for the
confirmation.

>
> An alternative would be to have a webdav fs on the machine with the org
> files, and to use that to write to the webdav area.
>

I'm not sure I parse that properly. Do you mean mounted and owned as
www-data/www via shfs or something?

Re: mobile org problems

[Greg Troxel]

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Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com> writes:
>
>> An alternative would be to have a webdav fs on the machine with the org
>> files, and to use that to write to the webdav area.
>>
>
> I'm not sure I parse that properly. Do you mean mounted and owned as
> www-data/www via shfs or something?

I mean use a fuse weddav mount with the same credentials, so that when
emacs puts org files there, it uses the same access/permissions/owners
on the filesystem that is backing the webdav space.

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Re: mobile org problems

[Greg Troxel]

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Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com> writes:
>
>> An alternative would be to have a webdav fs on the machine with the org
>> files, and to use that to write to the webdav area.
>>
>
> I'm not sure I parse that properly. Do you mean mounted and owned as
> www-data/www via shfs or something?

I mean use a fuse weddav mount with the same credentials, so that when
emacs puts org files there, it uses the same access/permissions/owners
on the filesystem that is backing the webdav space.

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