Re: Website revamp?

[Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>]

04.08.2020 22:53, TEC wrote:
> 
> Please, share your thoughts!

It is just opinion, I am unsure even that all suggestions are consistent 
or reachable with reasonable efforts. Since it is you who actually is 
doing the work, it is your right to choose which arguments should be 
ignored.

On a phone I would expect to see something like

#+begin_quote
Org mode for GNU Emacs

- Keeping notes
- maintaining TODO lists
- planning projects
- authoring documents

with a fast and effective plain-text system
#+end_quote

Sorry, but "An innovative and intuitive plain text markup syntax" means 
nothing to me. "Created by Carsten Dominik in 2003" is a sign of mature 
and stable enough software without disgusting "since ..." but 
contradicts a bit with "innovative".

In a "full" version my suggestion is to minimize amount of text 
significantly larger than 1em. 4em is excessively huge font for normal 
monitor. I am in doubt it is feasible to require readable but not 
oversized font on mobile devices, 1366x768px laptops, and 4k monitors 
simultaneously.

On the other hand, I hope, donate links work but in new design thy are 
not contrast and eye catching enough despite their colors.

In my opinion on a laptop/desktop screen the banner should not occupy so 
much vertical space. I like the idea of adaptive one or two column 
layout depending of screen width that you have shown in another message.

I see 3 category of users requiring content different to some extent but 
should be easily recognizable:

- Newcomers need to recognize if org-mode is able to do what are they 
looking for. So features should be presented for them, they should 
notice links to docs and an instruction how to try it
- "Help desk stuff" in a broad sense who are not aware of org-mode but 
have to help some person when local org-mode guru is not available. They 
need to quickly recognize what is org-mode is at all, so they may look 
for general descriptions, docs, specific discussion groups. Unsure but 
even "Download" instead "Install" might be more noticeable.
- Experienced users are more or less familiar with the site, they may 
look for project news, hacks, how to debug particular issue or to submit 
a patch. They should be able to find info on not so often used feature 
or to find specific place in docs to send a link to a friend. 
Unfortunately I am not familiar enough with content of the site to 
recommend "hot" links to the main page.

Priority of content is different for mobile and laptop/desktop visitors 
but the latter should see content, not just banner and void on the home 
page. There is room for improvement of current home page, but it is more 
informative than the new design demo.

> Are you saying that you find the current mention of Emacs in the 
> instillation page works well?

I do not remember how I realized that org-mode is a part of .deb package 
when I decided to try org-mode for the first time. I tend to believe 
that is not immediately clear that first paragraph could be just an 
alternative to second one. Maybe it should be emphasizing with headers:
"Use org-mode bundled with Emacs" vs. "Install latest stable org-mode 
package from ELPA".

Please, fix a typo. Should be "Installation".

> Even better - having two or three different demo files based on the use 
> case of
> the new user - e.g. programmer, author, organisation - or something like 
> that.

It would be great but it requires more work.

Minor remarks:
- Should not be logo + "Org mode" in the navigation bar a link similar 
to "Home"?
- I am afraid that without clear sign that demo page is an experiment, 
results in search engines could be distorted. Red block with text like 
"See official site https://orgmode.org" and robots.txt file could help 
to avoid confusion of people and crawlers.