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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.59 X-TUID: A4KHcqLKN/5y This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BFBBC354B6877730946F715E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your website update is looking great! A couple of comments: - If materials are presented that are not relatively recent, it may indicate to potential users a lack of project vitality. - Because so many people these days are enticed by videos, I wonder if links to a few selected, engaging videos could be made prominent on the home page. I know that creating such a list could be difficult, but perhaps some consensus could be reached on a few outstanding selections. -gyro On 8/4/2020 12:27 AM, TEC wrote: >=20 > Good to hear from you! >=20 > Eric S Fraga writes: >> I do like the animated images in the features page! >=20 > Glad you like them! I recently converted the static images to SVGs with= > the help of someone using Emacs27 w/ Cairo, would be nice go do > something like an animated SVG in the future, but that's for (much) > later :P >=20 >> I do wonder about the order of the topics within that page, e.g. >> working with source code, although powerful, is probably not the lead >> item for new users.=C2=A0 However, that's a minor point at this stage.= =20 >=20 > Thanks for this feedback. I prioritised the source code blocks because:= > a) my impression is that to Comp/Data Sci people, they are one of /the/= > most =C2=A0=C2=A0 compelling features of Org-mode b) they're similar to= elements > people are familiar with (Jupyter =C2=A0=C2=A0 notebooks, R markdown), = so the > Comp/Data Sci segment of our =C2=A0=C2=A0 audience is already roughy fa= miliar with > part of their =C2=A0=C2=A0 capabilities > I shifted the agenda/capture/clocking/etc. features down because > a) they semantically seem like they should go together b) having them > near the top pushes down too many other features too much, IMO >=20 > Absolutely worth considering the order, please share any further > thoughts you may have :) >=20 >> More generally, can the column width for the text be a function of the= >> window width and have images scaled so that they are not wider than >> the text column?=C2=A0 It should be possible to have mobile friendly >> without making the columns too narrow for full desktop use.=C2=A0 The = fact >> that the images are much wider than the text makes the page look ugly,= >> in my opinion.=20 >=20 > The column width already is. I just find long lines undesirable. 50-80 > characters is the standard in publishing for a reason. >=20 > To quote from /The Elements of Typographic Style/, >> Anything from 45 to 75 characters is widely regarded as a satisfactory= >> line length of line for a single-column page set in a serifed text >> face in a text size. The 66-character line (counting both letters and >> spaces) is widely regarded as ideal. For multiple-column work, a >> better average is 40 to 50 characters. If the type is well set and >> printed, lines of 85 or 90 characters will pose no problem in >> discontinuous texts, such as bibliographies, or, with generous >> leading, in footnotes. But even with generous leading, a line that >> averages more than 75 or So characters is likely to be too long for >> continuous reading.=20 >=20 > There's more to be said about line spacing and the reasons for this - i= f > I recall correctly /A practical guide to typography/ (available online)= > goes over this. >=20 > I look forward to hearing any further comments you may have! >=20 > Timothy. >=20 >=20 --------------BFBBC354B6877730946F715E Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; name="pEpkey.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pEpkey.asc" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- mQENBF6hsZQBCAC7VMuuLlR4TC8k0pSG33MHCdswjTozaQjnOtXKnRHjHnmSMENh Ff7w80eKHbacip2pwERlyXOHMqKKPwkQZ8cVIrH5KceRcQgMYxLeA52SlSKC37rp rlqP6M2iEX6Mc94mYRuwT55hfmLw5g3Sly5Aqwhjs1K10y8MdXPCw4rZTW9MLoJj laioAn0hex9zPsClNqH+s5b6WGqHWseR2mx+qfPEyagxNpl4aZH/yFaFAEmJZeFl SGlQRiu8PPu/u8zKphR+EesOl/g64ZqPeSlvNF7I3Qlg0CD0A6VSi3VlCoE9LYm0 EINfbCNpEiRlWh33XHfNKAQ78mOdwXQreiShABEBAAG0I0d5cm8gRnVuY2ggPGd5 cm9tYWduZXRpY0BnbWFpbC5jb20+iQFUBBMBCAA+FiEEPn9cVr4niLyLHMdMPhEe 9JkJgL4FAl6hsZgCGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ PhEe9JkJgL5eigf+PdQXhDu0NqoifvTU3ZP4zzGJNQvQmN+ScNTookh+e8rAcRlX VdjrhvZTaWAanXrwI5WKS8dLYC+ASa3+ZJbAYVLVJwBvUE3UtJ+FDZEmaocY3Np8 l7DSB5sYqqsn3C++/vPfD673i9na7r5wWtG/pEmMZWAdAiBeyMvruTWdUCl6RGMh eFP1nwg2yvbUUav1rOf1/vQr/W183HjvRH9IRQ/kWyswWGyFVZ6ghcBN6mipp47s osG+gvJND82ZUk9zmubbTInnjxg/cR6Nkt0QQM/jxlYqqQ2cxLuKCQJuaDsN6sWU J1ipSw2qxDWd8ISTh62V340Xlvvmp+rCoRFvmbkBDQReobGWAQgAyP2gnP+NJXbf Zm9MJAeMUjjrR7PEvfRwpYR4mjoeuUUpV0Xr58J1yE7SqExxrv8ssO0FPDFkrclI 1HrVS7iBnMIkKDDzchNKECEBKLBT4YqcOPm4VD0ejExYjmH6uU7FzsVODraDpRw+ hcqeIEQDRcJQKBvl7dCYd9GzZ3+sndy4QdbOYJIBlflYD5BbYfD6oBLZJE6sOXOB WTcORJveaZGrHKFDsK/m/CnN7GO9VFStVoSp8Ne0TFfgeHQkF+Hontx/BKBUygEN a+wJivu+rSGYE899k9h5woKSnVEODpdaBDNQHM75qoVl1RG3IvX0G0xTa+b9Cy/g 2r+9PZSlHwARAQABiQE8BBgBCAAmFiEEPn9cVr4niLyLHMdMPhEe9JkJgL4FAl6h sZYCGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQPhEe9JkJgL5uwAf/QiLF7Nrm1PhCC5oTQqvlilnejYc/ Fx6sBGYQ5uJ83zKTCKx4pXaksc2TRfuvSECqTN9VHjPdZMn5gb40THorqFQg3ofU 9lyqC09BjKSV9Lq1c+TUmPs/ofJ0QysXeYeVzXVxqBaqzoUBNQw3EjYnH3Yr330b njD1hrgF3GzvB7+2iyFkNlHIzNxd0F84vGRPZzTfgymIO/BDpKGJeNAzjIFbk/6R FSZFeya61yhG5VHUdnpd0bwwhN+E4r99aBAn3wyI7r4HFW6IeBphfVxDv36RNjQJ ZftL6PYFxoXkJKBZTJAZK0Jj1dlYYrLwVU4ZQnNLd8KXfAfTI+7oz36Mzg=3D=3D =3DVZk2 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --------------BFBBC354B6877730946F715E--