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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: autofrettage Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1617108870; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=I/Ojq3dOdn698J1mrLec/izH+BAgKjjjR34vExx29ac=; b=UpFgh3loKLNnj+sXFeDrQYwx3/oWQQLusR63wD9RcJNWcNylal20WPv8rofNxgWqfLsnEp BZiVdgrXQkNo9iTZSYrLC6GiZ5NnbkATETjr9FmhW/0j6pdLHmJ3I4RMtH1XoDNi6h0ryf PQ4pEvZbu5Dy+CfQIHrvZ3qIgv948X4367EDPu0zzr7xPYgOM1w9bhNauOA0ngqcetC9ss dDjQr8AKXPd7/kKLmY6bZ04bWPzg3ydGDaBpWAgpLDjhQ3DVRvNeCusiKN99piKXZ5zjCl nNMSu555SFWOgI+XEpBI9eCEwskZR8XQ4eiBOXN1Gx7U3VnbG3K8tGR2cidtMA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1617108870; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=GekIinnY7ErQRtYTRfA3oIHtKVEWZOdPaxHtSs6e/XNvaVpWlsFR17mdgdxng7H3hEYkUA 1pxgXsFMsElQFZDj133h2zqs2zABXy2VcsoJS0kZZLTQpf2hQcVkGEXGeZEXFfREdvRPHx bkmXCTHFMwxum7mYD98kWBkRNscAJnNlsqbL7ksSxm8BhvMuut0T19hy/KO1vQ+Rc4QRbn EWt1wcdAoFWlGX8xzZ6o0rF9kCwYmn613tDy047a5frqNnyVg8EJkvKxMwlCApwg5xkryV iZ/gKWLXL3hHxJsLcwAo69Ip6aGn39VsIcaAxuiOxAbmiEUggJj42dXum+N5Bw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=protonmail.ch header.s=protonmail header.b=swSfdCHV; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=protonmail.ch; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=protonmail.ch header.s=protonmail header.b=swSfdCHV; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=protonmail.ch; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9DD7D27484 X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 7nUDtWS7d2Pv Hi, Just a remark about what Martin Steffen wrote: > There is one case where I do NOT use org for such documents (though I > use org basically most things I do), and that is > > collaborative editing, > > /.../ one can easily > mess it up (typically for novices, who start changing layout or > typesetting, injecting manual spacing etc). > /.../ > That's why I have not dared to write challenging (latex) documents with > org collaboratively (complex documents alone, yes, simple documents > jointly, but not all....) Not even the most streamlined DTP-wysiwyg-program is safe from this. Far from. I even doubt typewritten documents can be written colla- boratively, without someone messing things up. There should be something like pilot licences for using certain computer tools, not to speak about programming, but let's not sink into squabbles about that... cheers Rasmus