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MathJax is a wonderful thing and the LaTeX expression embedded in the HTML is the best one can do -- MathML loses semantics -- which is why I always recommend preserving the LaTeX when going to HTML. PDF as a format doesn't have the affordance to preserve the LaTeX and even if you kluged up something --- the tools to extract that out of the PDF would need to be invented. > "T.V Raman" writes: > >> > > 3. For math especially, make sure the TeX/LaTeX is preserved = one >> > > way or the other in the export >> >=20 >> > Do you refer to the TeX source? To any specific export format? >> 2. Math: Yes -- I meant the TeX/LaTeX representation of a math >> expression. >> Ihor Radchenko writes: > > For html export we do preserve TeX/LaTeX representation because we use > Mathjax that directly supports such representation. > > However, I am not sure how to preserve the original representation, say, > in LaTeX pdf export. > > Best, > Ihor --=20 Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8