From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Greg Newman Subject: Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:38:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2074400467==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O5SS9-000140-S3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:38:33 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38719 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O5SS7-00011a-UD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:38:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5SS5-0004qn-6l for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:38:31 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:44978) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5SS4-0004qc-Vc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:38:29 -0400 Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so3186519vws.0 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:38:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matthew Jones Cc: David Frascone , emacs-orgmode --===============2074400467== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e887af1964d190484efec08 --e0cb4e887af1964d190484efec08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You don't really need a cron to do the push/pull thing. What I have in my configs is the following. You can add org-mobile-pull to it to if you'd like: (run-at-time "00:59" 3600 'org-mobile-push) This runs a push for me every hour. If I'm not at my mac I still know that within the hour I'll have an updated agenda on my iPhone. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Matthew Jones wrote: > You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine. > > 73, > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > http://matburt.net > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < > celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Cool! >> >> Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would >> help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the >> underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have >> background services on the iPhone OS ?). >> >> As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not >> an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp >> programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do >> something from inside emacs itself. >> >> Marcelo. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones wrote: >> >>> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto >>> synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment >>> on the iPhone version. It may be one of those things where it would >>> automatically sync when launched. >>> >>> 73, >>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>> http://matburt.net >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind >>>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to >>>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the >>>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. >>>> >>>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate >>>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to >>>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not >>>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. >>>> >>>> Marcelo. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did >>>>> that and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain >>>>> to point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup >>>>> on VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is >>>>> password-protected, naturally). >>>>> >>>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use >>>>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the >>>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. >>>>> >>>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the >>>>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at >>>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. >>>>> >>>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. >>>>> >>>>> Marcelo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi David >>>>>> >>>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the >>>>>> remote server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is >>>>>> this not the case? >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>>>>> http://matburt.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best >>>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm >>>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >>>>>>> don't like the mac synching. >>>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's >>>>>>> the best way to do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that >>>>>>> doesn't help the reverse path. >>>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav >>>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, I guess my questions are: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >>>>>>> webdav provider)? >>>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > --e0cb4e887af1964d190484efec08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You don't really need a cron to do the push/pull thing.=C2=A0
What = I have in my configs is the following. =C2=A0You can add org-mobile-pull to= it to if you'd like:

(run-at-time "00:59= " 3600 'org-mobile-push)

This runs a push for me every hour. =C2=A0If I'm no= t at my mac I still know that within the hour
I'll have an up= dated agenda on my iPhone.




On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote= :
You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine.
=

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


= On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa = <celoserpa@gmai= l.com> wrote:
Cool!

Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I thin= k) and would help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integrati= on with the underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure= you can have background services on the iPhone OS ?).

As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I= 9;m not an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp = programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do s= omething from inside emacs itself.

Marcelo.


= On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto synchro= nization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment on the = iPhone version. =C2=A0It may be one of those things where it would automati= cally sync when launched.
On Fri, Apr 2= 3, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind org-mobi= le pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to update = from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the result is= that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.

I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate '= (org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic= " sync to my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-= sync too. Not sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.

Marcelo.


= On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gma= il.com> wrote:
Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that an= d it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to poin= t to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on VPS = @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is password-protected,= naturally).

If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just= use finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the = startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.

With Linux/Ub= untu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the very same ef= fect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at boot-time) -- in bot= h cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.

For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.

Marc= elo.


On Fri, = Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David

=

Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your fi= les on the remote server. =C2=A0You should be able to use org-mobile-pull f= or retrieval, is this not the case?

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Thu, Apr 22, 201= 0 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com> wrote:
<= /div>

I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the= best way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).=C2= =A0 And, I'm VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.=C2=A0 I can e= asily do a one way sync (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm look= ing for a better way (two way sync, like MobileOrg)

I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
I also have an iDisk, but i= t's a pain to keep that synched.=C2=A0 I simply don't like the mac = synching.
I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sur= e if that's the best way to do it.

I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.=C2=A0 But, that do= esn't help the reverse path.
I run my own apache at home, so, I supp= ose I could install webdav there, but I have concerns about security, havin= g never messed with it.

So, I guess my questions are:


What's the simplest method= that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random webdav provider)?
And, w= hat's the simplest method that's secure?



Thanks in a= dvance,


-Dave

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