From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa Subject: Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:04:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1586917374==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O5Q2v-00005F-M9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:04:21 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51554 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O5Q2s-00004w-Qh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:04:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5Q2p-0004ac-RM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:04:18 -0400 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:41575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5Q2p-0004aW-GC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:04:15 -0400 Received: by pwi10 with SMTP id 10so1539182pwi.0 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:04:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matthew Jones Cc: David Frascone , emacs-orgmode --===============1586917374== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1a3f0032dbd0484edc506 --000e0cd1a3f0032dbd0484edc506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool! Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have background services on the iPhone OS ?). As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do something from inside emacs itself. Marcelo. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones wrote: > That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto synchronization > mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment on the iPhone > version. It may be one of those things where it would automatically sync > when launched. > > 73, > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > http://matburt.net > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < > celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind >> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to >> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the >> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. >> >> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate >> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to >> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not >> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. >> >> Marcelo. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that >>> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to >>> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on >>> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is >>> password-protected, naturally). >>> >>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use >>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the >>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. >>> >>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the >>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at >>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. >>> >>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. >>> >>> Marcelo. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Hi David >>>> >>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >>>> >>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote >>>> server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this >>>> not the case? >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>>> http://matburt.net >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best >>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm >>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>>>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>>>> >>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >>>>> don't like the mac synching. >>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's >>>>> the best way to do it. >>>>> >>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that doesn't >>>>> help the reverse path. >>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav >>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>>>> >>>>> So, I guess my questions are: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >>>>> webdav provider)? >>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Dave >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --000e0cd1a3f0032dbd0484edc506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool!

Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I thin= k) and would help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integrati= on with the underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure= you can have background services on the iPhone OS ?).

As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I= 9;m not an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp = programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do s= omething from inside emacs itself.

Marcelo.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:5= 9 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto synchro= nization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment on the = iPhone version. =A0It may be one of those things where it would automatical= ly sync when launched.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


= On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa = <celoserpa@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind org-mobi= le pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to update = from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the result is= that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.

I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate '= (org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic= " sync to my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-= sync too. Not sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.

Marcelo.


= On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gma= il.com> wrote:
Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that an= d it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to poin= t to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on VPS = @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is password-protected,= naturally).

If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just= use finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the = startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.

With Linux/Ub= untu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the very same ef= fect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at boot-time) -- in bot= h cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.

For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.

Marc= elo.


On Fri, = Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David

=
http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg

Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your fi= les on the remote server. =A0You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for = retrieval, is this not the case?

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Thu, Apr 22, 201= 0 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com> wrote:
=

I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the= best way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).=A0 = And, I'm VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.=A0 I can easily d= o a one way sync (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for= a better way (two way sync, like MobileOrg)

I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
I also have an iDisk, but i= t's a pain to keep that synched.=A0 I simply don't like the mac syn= ching.
I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure i= f that's the best way to do it.

I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.=A0 But, that doesn= 't help the reverse path.
I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose= I could install webdav there, but I have concerns about security, having n= ever messed with it.

So, I guess my questions are:


What's the simplest method= that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random webdav provider)?
And, w= hat's the simplest method that's secure?



Thanks in a= dvance,


-Dave

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