From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Vaidheeswaran Subject: Citation syntax and ODT Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:52:35 +0530 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPQqX-0006f1-IH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 02:20:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPQqU-0008Ce-CH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 02:20:57 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPQqU-0008CY-4Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 02:20:54 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YPQqR-0005bW-Tq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 08:20:52 +0100 Received: from 106.216.206.195 ([106.216.206.195]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 08:20:51 +0100 Received: from vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju by 106.216.206.195 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 08:20:51 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Those working on the citation syntax should make it clear that the "lowest common" cite syntax does NOT also IMPOSE (or GUARANTEE) a specific style on the produced document. When I say this, I specifically mean: 1. I want my citation and references to be carried over FAITHFULLY to the exported document. 2. I DON'T CARE how (1) is styled. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The above observations would translate to: The Cite object in it's SIMPLEST form specifies just a citekey (or a set of citekeys). The Cite-object is qualified with a footnote saying that any key-value pair -- including "type" -- that is specified with Cite object MAY BE IGNORED by a backend. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Note that I am not speaking against Bells and Whistles. I am only saying that Bells and Whistles MUST NOT be imposed upon a backend like ODT where the available tools are NOT AS RICH OR AS MATURE AS that available with other backends like HTML or LaTeX. ---------------------------------------------------------------- A simple search of this discussion list suggests that there already exists ODT/JabRef implementation. I hope those who are working on the syntax also study the EXISTING IMPLEMENTATION and HAVE THAT IMPLEMENTATION INFORM THE ENTERPRISE. If someone puts up a draft that (re)-captures the state-of-the-art, I am willing to do the homework of whetting the spec. against existing IMPLEMENTATION.