From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rainer M Krug Subject: Re: [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package? Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:26:30 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ob7z4nzl.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <877gentvmv.fsf@gmx.us> <87wqmmos25.fsf@gmail.com> <20130913100125.257db23d@vknecht-intel.unibw-hamburg.de> <87ioy1vya1.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VLWxD-0000Gx-AK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 07:27:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VLWx6-00016b-Iw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 07:26:55 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VLWx6-00016U-Bw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 07:26:48 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VLWx1-0005RS-Jc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:26:43 +0200 Received: from arn78-1-88-186-171-7.fbx.proxad.net ([88.186.171.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:26:43 +0200 Received: from Rainer by arn78-1-88-186-171-7.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:26:43 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rasmus writes: > Carsten Dominik writes: > >> OK, let me ask like this: >> >> Does anyone know about conflicts arising from loading wrapfig and rotating? > > Their manuals doesn't mention anything, it seems. The internet > suggests that there might be between memoir and wrapfig, but I didn't > look into it as I don't know much about memoir. > > >> OK, so my proposal is > > Note: I should be obvious that I prefer to load as little stuff be > default as possible. That is: I'm biased, but it's OK when everyone > knows. > >> - to add the rotating package >> - do document that the tabu package is needed when specifying tabu > > Note the package loading order might matter. > >> - do document that amsmath in needed when generating a matrix > > and subscripts. And sometimes math (e.g. align). > >> The reasoning: > >> - wrapfig and longtable have been in there for a long time, we want to >> avoid breaking existing files whenever possible > > Assuming a mechanism exists that can detect when tabu is to be loaded > why only apply it there and not to the other optional packages? > >> - rotating is needed for sideways stuff and does not do any harm > > Alternative implementation exists, but they are of course not > supported by Org. Would they be in conflict? I doubt it. > >> - somewhat arbitrarily I am drawing the line above the tabu package. > > It does seem a bit arbitrary. > > Bu people who feel strongly about not loading some stuff can change > default package alist so it's not a big issue. Exactly. For beginner and normal users, this should work out of the box, but advanced (org and LaTeX) users should have no problem with adapting the default package ist to their needs. Cheers, Rainer > > –Rasmus -- Rainer M. Krug email: RMKruggmailcom