Re: Citation syntax and ODT

[tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)]

Vaidheeswaran C <vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tuesday 24 February 2015 11:37 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>> Aloha Vaidheeswaran C,
>>
>> Vaidheeswaran C<vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju@gmail.com>  writes:
>>
>>> On Tuesday 24 February 2015 10:31 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>>>> Vaidheeswaran C<vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju@gmail.com>   writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Often times there is a difference between what is possible and what is
>>>>> the common practice.  So,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. How often do you intermix in-text and parenthetical styles.
>>>>
>>>> Every day?
>>>
>>> Ok.
>>>
>>>>> 2. Can the document author re-word his work in such a way that an
>>>>>      in-text or parenthetical citation could be replaced by the other
>>>>>      without compromising on the overall style of the produced document.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but the author will certainly choose to use a tool that doesn't
>>>> require this.
>>>
>>> (Let me remind you, when it comes to LaTeX, I have zero knowledge.)
>>>
>>> 1. When you say 'tool' what exactly do you mean?
>>> 2. Give us some concrete examples of what 'this tool' does.
>>>     a) Can an elisp module aspire to replicate what 'this tool' does?
>>>     b) 'The task' that 'this tool' accomplishes, is it 'common' across
>>>        all the citation engines that the participants (in this
>>>        discussion) have in mind.
>
> If someone could respond to above questions with concrete examples I
> will give it due attention.

AFAIK, the only software that has proposed a solution to the problem of
maintaining a citation database that can support the universe of
citation styles developed "in the wild" is BibLaTeX.  I've been trying
to impart what I know of this so the citation syntax developed by the
Org mode community doesn't limit what Org mode can do in the future.
I'm not too concerned if the backend support is uneven at first.  I'll
be happy if the syntax doesn't have to change as citation support in ODT
and other backends matures, as it certainly will.

BibLaTeX includes a well-written manual that has influenced my thinking
on citation managers.  I recommend it highly.

>> In my field of archaeology it is not unusual to find a journal that does
>> not accept LaTeX.  When the journal requires Word, which is very common,
>> I've been converting from LaTeX with tex4ht, but it would be neat to
>> export directly to ODT.
>
> I will be happy to excuse myself from this discussion if ODT/JabRef
> integration is of no interest to the community.

No offense intended.  I tried, apparently unsuccessfully, to indicate my
interest in Org mode support for ODT.  Let me indicate my interest
again.  I would definitely like to export my documents to ODT so I can
submit them directly to journals in my field that require Word files.
The translation through tex4ht is, for me, an adventure and I'd much
prefer to skip it if I could.

I have no idea if this is possible with the citation managers that work
with ODT.  I'll be pleased to learn that it is possible, and happy to
wait if it is not.

I fully expect that other users have different needs, I'm just trying to
indicate my interest in Org mode support for ODT citations here.

All the best,
Tom

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