* Mobile Org Sharing Questions @ 2010-04-22 16:12 David Frascone 2010-04-23 17:17 ` Matthew Jones 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: David Frascone @ 2010-04-22 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 983 bytes --] I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way sync, like MobileOrg) I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply don't like the mac synching. I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's the best way to do it. I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that doesn't help the reverse path. I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. So, I guess my questions are: What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random webdav provider)? And, what's the simplest method that's secure? Thanks in advance, -Dave [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1116 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions 2010-04-22 16:12 Mobile Org Sharing Questions David Frascone @ 2010-04-23 17:17 ` Matthew Jones 2010-04-23 17:38 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Matthew Jones @ 2010-04-23 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Frascone; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1604 bytes --] Hi David http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this not the case? 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com> wrote: > > I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way to > keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm VERY > new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync > (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way > sync, like MobileOrg) > > I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. > I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply don't > like the mac synching. > I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's the > best way to do it. > > I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that doesn't > help the reverse path. > I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there, > but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. > > So, I guess my questions are: > > > What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random > webdav provider)? > And, what's the simplest method that's secure? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > -Dave > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2254 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions 2010-04-23 17:17 ` Matthew Jones @ 2010-04-23 17:38 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa 2010-04-23 17:40 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2010-04-23 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Jones; +Cc: David Frascone, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2737 bytes --] Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is password-protected, naturally). If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. Marcelo. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi David > > http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg > > Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote > server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this > not the case? > > 73, > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > http://matburt.net > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote: > >> >> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way >> to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm VERY >> new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >> sync, like MobileOrg) >> >> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >> don't like the mac synching. >> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's the >> best way to do it. >> >> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that doesn't >> help the reverse path. >> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there, >> but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >> >> So, I guess my questions are: >> >> >> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >> webdav provider)? >> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> >> -Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3962 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions 2010-04-23 17:38 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2010-04-23 17:40 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa 2010-04-23 17:59 ` Matthew Jones 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2010-04-23 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Jones; +Cc: David Frascone, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3479 bytes --] On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. Marcelo. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that > and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to > point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on > VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is > password-protected, naturally). > > If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use > finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the > startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. > > With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the > very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at > boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. > > For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. > > Marcelo. > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi David >> >> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >> >> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote >> server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this >> not the case? >> >> 73, >> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >> http://matburt.net >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way >>> to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm VERY >>> new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>> >>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >>> don't like the mac synching. >>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's the >>> best way to do it. >>> >>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that doesn't >>> help the reverse path. >>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there, >>> but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>> >>> So, I guess my questions are: >>> >>> >>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >>> webdav provider)? >>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5003 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions 2010-04-23 17:40 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2010-04-23 17:59 ` Matthew Jones 2010-04-23 21:04 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Matthew Jones @ 2010-04-23 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: David Frascone, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3971 bytes --] That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment on the iPhone version. It may be one of those things where it would automatically sync when launched. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind > org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to > update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the > result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. > > I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate > '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to > my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not > sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. > > Marcelo. > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < > celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that >> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to >> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on >> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is >> password-protected, naturally). >> >> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use >> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the >> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. >> >> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the >> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at >> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. >> >> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. >> >> Marcelo. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi David >>> >>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >>> >>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote >>> server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this >>> not the case? >>> >>> 73, >>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>> http://matburt.net >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way >>>> to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm VERY >>>> new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>>> >>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >>>> don't like the mac synching. >>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's >>>> the best way to do it. >>>> >>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that doesn't >>>> help the reverse path. >>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there, >>>> but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>>> >>>> So, I guess my questions are: >>>> >>>> >>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >>>> webdav provider)? >>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> >>>> >>>> -Dave >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>> >>> >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5800 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions 2010-04-23 17:59 ` Matthew Jones @ 2010-04-23 21:04 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa 2010-04-23 21:31 ` Matthew Jones 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2010-04-23 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Jones; +Cc: David Frascone, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4712 bytes --] Cool! Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have background services on the iPhone OS ?). As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do something from inside emacs itself. Marcelo. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: > That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto synchronization > mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment on the iPhone > version. It may be one of those things where it would automatically sync > when launched. > > 73, > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > http://matburt.net > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < > celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind >> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to >> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the >> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. >> >> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate >> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to >> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not >> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. >> >> Marcelo. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that >>> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to >>> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on >>> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is >>> password-protected, naturally). >>> >>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use >>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the >>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. >>> >>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the >>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at >>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. >>> >>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. >>> >>> Marcelo. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi David >>>> >>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >>>> >>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote >>>> server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this >>>> not the case? >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>>> http://matburt.net >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best >>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm >>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>>>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>>>> >>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >>>>> don't like the mac synching. >>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's >>>>> the best way to do it. >>>>> >>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that doesn't >>>>> help the reverse path. >>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav >>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>>>> >>>>> So, I guess my questions are: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >>>>> webdav provider)? >>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Dave >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>> >>>> >>> >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 6860 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. 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* Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions 2010-04-23 21:04 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2010-04-23 21:31 ` Matthew Jones 2010-04-23 23:38 ` Greg Newman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Matthew Jones @ 2010-04-23 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: David Frascone, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 5069 bytes --] You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > Cool! > > Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would > help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the > underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have > background services on the iPhone OS ?). > > As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not > an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp > programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do > something from inside emacs itself. > > Marcelo. > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: > >> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto >> synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment >> on the iPhone version. It may be one of those things where it would >> automatically sync when launched. >> >> 73, >> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >> http://matburt.net >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind >>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to >>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the >>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. >>> >>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate >>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to >>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not >>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. >>> >>> Marcelo. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that >>>> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to >>>> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on >>>> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is >>>> password-protected, naturally). >>>> >>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use >>>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the >>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. >>>> >>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the >>>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at >>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. >>>> >>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. >>>> >>>> Marcelo. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi David >>>>> >>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >>>>> >>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the >>>>> remote server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is >>>>> this not the case? >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>>>> http://matburt.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best >>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm >>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>>>>> >>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >>>>>> don't like the mac synching. >>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's >>>>>> the best way to do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that >>>>>> doesn't help the reverse path. >>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav >>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I guess my questions are: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >>>>>> webdav provider)? >>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 7475 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. 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* Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions 2010-04-23 21:31 ` Matthew Jones @ 2010-04-23 23:38 ` Greg Newman 2010-05-04 15:57 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Greg Newman @ 2010-04-23 23:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Jones; +Cc: David Frascone, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 5850 bytes --] You don't really need a cron to do the push/pull thing. What I have in my configs is the following. You can add org-mobile-pull to it to if you'd like: (run-at-time "00:59" 3600 'org-mobile-push) This runs a push for me every hour. If I'm not at my mac I still know that within the hour I'll have an updated agenda on my iPhone. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote: > You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine. > > 73, > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > http://matburt.net > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < > celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Cool! >> >> Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would >> help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the >> underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have >> background services on the iPhone OS ?). >> >> As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not >> an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp >> programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do >> something from inside emacs itself. >> >> Marcelo. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto >>> synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment >>> on the iPhone version. It may be one of those things where it would >>> automatically sync when launched. >>> >>> 73, >>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>> http://matburt.net >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind >>>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to >>>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the >>>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. >>>> >>>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate >>>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to >>>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not >>>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. >>>> >>>> Marcelo. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did >>>>> that and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain >>>>> to point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup >>>>> on VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is >>>>> password-protected, naturally). >>>>> >>>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use >>>>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the >>>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. >>>>> >>>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the >>>>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at >>>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. >>>>> >>>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. >>>>> >>>>> Marcelo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi David >>>>>> >>>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the >>>>>> remote server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is >>>>>> this not the case? >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>>>>> http://matburt.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best >>>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm >>>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >>>>>>> don't like the mac synching. >>>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's >>>>>>> the best way to do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that >>>>>>> doesn't help the reverse path. >>>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav >>>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, I guess my questions are: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >>>>>>> webdav provider)? >>>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 8801 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. 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* Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions 2010-04-23 23:38 ` Greg Newman @ 2010-05-04 15:57 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2010-05-04 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Greg Newman; +Cc: David Frascone, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6477 bytes --] Here's what I did: (defun org-mobile-pullpush nil nil (org-mobile-pull) (org-mobile-push)) (run-at-time "00:59" 3600 'org-mobile-pullpush) This way, if I had anything on the mobile device, I get it merged locally and then pushed back to mobile. Didn't use it extensively, but from what I could see, works fine. Marcelo. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Greg Newman <gregoryjnewman@gmail.com>wrote: > You don't really need a cron to do the push/pull thing. > What I have in my configs is the following. You can add org-mobile-pull to > it to if you'd like: > > (run-at-time "00:59" 3600 'org-mobile-push) > > This runs a push for me every hour. If I'm not at my mac I still know that > within the hour > I'll have an updated agenda on my iPhone. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: > >> You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine. >> >> 73, >> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >> http://matburt.net >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Cool! >>> >>> Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and >>> would help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with >>> the underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can >>> have background services on the iPhone OS ?). >>> >>> As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm >>> not an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp >>> programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do >>> something from inside emacs itself. >>> >>> Marcelo. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto >>>> synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment >>>> on the iPhone version. It may be one of those things where it would >>>> automatically sync when launched. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>>> http://matburt.net >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind >>>>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to >>>>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the >>>>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. >>>>> >>>>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate >>>>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to >>>>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not >>>>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. >>>>> >>>>> Marcelo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >>>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did >>>>>> that and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain >>>>>> to point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup >>>>>> on VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is >>>>>> password-protected, naturally). >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just >>>>>> use finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the >>>>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. >>>>>> >>>>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get >>>>>> the very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at >>>>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. >>>>>> >>>>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcelo. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the >>>>>>> remote server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is >>>>>>> this not the case? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>>>>>> http://matburt.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best >>>>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm >>>>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>>>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>>>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>>>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I >>>>>>>> simply don't like the mac synching. >>>>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if >>>>>>>> that's the best way to do it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that >>>>>>>> doesn't help the reverse path. >>>>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav >>>>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, I guess my questions are: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some >>>>>>>> random webdav provider)? >>>>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 9729 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. 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