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Subject: Re: exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:24:27 +0100
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Matt Price writes:

> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> writes:

Actually, Rasmus wrote the following, not I.

>> IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a
>> real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good backend
>> support (bibtex & Zotero for starters, I guess).
>>
>> #+begin_rant
>>
>> The current state is a mess and not portable.  E.g. there's at least two
>> Zotero projects, there's John Kitchin's code, there's ox-bibtex.el (which
>> IMO is not suitable for complicated citation requirements), plus everyone
>> and their mother's have got custom citation links in their config via
>> custom org link types...
>>
>> /Proper/ citation support (not links) is, IMO, the last thing that is
>> missing for good academic publishing support.

But I don't necessarily disagree. I just figure I might try to prototype
the solutions I'd like to see toward the day someone steps up to the bat and
implements them in core with native syntax.

Yours,
Christian