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From: Nick Helm <nick@tenpoint.co.nz>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Bug: Org 9.2.1 table issues [9.2.1 (9.2.1-dist @ /Users/nick/.emacs.d/lisp/org-9.2.1/)]
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 08:48:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2mumwdsp8.fsf@tenpoint.co.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874l95qq9c.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:50:55 +0100")

Thank you for your response.

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> Nick Helm <nick@tenpoint.co.nz> writes:
>>
>> The column is no longer right aligned. 
>
> This is by design, so you can often edit the field without expanding the
> column.

I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying the ability align cell contents in
a shrunk column has been purposefully removed from 9.2?

If that's the case, it's a significant loss of functionality. This would
mean, for instance, that it's no longer possible to format financial
data with a uniform column width.

>> In the last table above, continuation / truncation / shrunk cell
>> characters (…) display even though the column is the full specified
>> width (40 char in this case) and no cell text is truncated. I expect
>> continuation to only show when text is actually truncated.
>
> I think this is a matter of taste. 
>
> Of course, this is slightly more informative, but I prefer a more
> visible "…" character. It might be confusing otherwise, e.g., if you
> edit a narrow column, which suddenly expands because a very large column
> below.

The choice of continuation character is indeed personal preference, but
the character's presence on non-truncated cells is not. It's misleading
and ambiguous.

Let me try to illustrate with another example. If you shrink this table
with C-c TAB:

| <5>                      |
| one                  two |
| one                      |

you get the following:

| <5> …|
| one …|
| one …|

This is misleading - cell 3 contains no additional content yet the
indicator says it does. It's also ambiguous - it's impossible to
determine whether cell 2 or 3 contains the longer field.

Compare with this, where such information is clearly conveyed:

| <5>  |
| one …|
| one  |

I wouldn't describe this difference as a matter of taste. This is a
feature that previously existed (substitute "=>" for "…" in the table
above and you have the result in 9.1). Has this been removed from 9.2 as
well?

Nick


  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-16  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-15  0:29 Bug: Org 9.2.1 table issues [9.2.1 (9.2.1-dist @ /Users/nick/.emacs.d/lisp/org-9.2.1/)] Nick Helm
2019-02-15 10:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-02-16  8:48   ` Nick Helm [this message]
2019-02-17 17:52     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-02-18  8:11       ` Nick Helm
2019-02-18 21:30         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-02-18 22:11           ` Nick Helm
2019-02-18 22:44             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-02-19  3:16               ` Nick Helm
2019-02-19 10:10                 ` Eric S Fraga
2019-02-19 11:46                   ` Nick Helm
2019-02-21 20:42                   ` Nick Helm
2019-02-26 10:10                     ` Eric S Fraga
2019-02-19 12:17       ` Nick Helm
2019-02-19 16:07         ` Nicolas Goaziou

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