From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: Feature request [7.3] Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 05:42:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87aakg17g5.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87vd33xqzx.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41691 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQdxp-0008R7-3Q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 05:43:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQdxn-0003RR-No for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 05:43:04 -0500 Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com ([209.85.216.195]:41861) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQdxn-0003Qv-9M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 05:43:03 -0500 Received: by qyk2 with SMTP id 2so466605qyk.6 for ; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 02:43:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87vd33xqzx.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eric S Fraga Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org At Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:57:54 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > Dave Abrahams writes: > > [...] > > >> > It'd be great if there were a way to make the ID property > >> > read-only (or really really hard to change). > >> > >> This is where column mode comes in quite handy? > > > > Link please? > > Apologies; I meant column view within org mode: info -> org -> > Properties and Columns -> Column view Wow, having that on completely messes up the agenda view! > [...] > > > But the point is that these are just examples. I think Org wasn't > > designed with the idea that it would end up having much of a > > "grammar," but it grew one. I'm arguing for a UI re-think for the > > tool Org has become. > > Yes, I can see what you are getting at. However, one of the nicest > things about org is that it doesn't necessarily impose a structure on > everything and so a formal grammar could get in the way. I'm not asking to change the grammar, I'm just asking the editor to be smarter about the grammar that has actually evolved. > One could argue that the flexibility of the system is it's main > source of effectiveness! Could, but total flexibility doesn't work for everyone. > That and the fact that it is based on pure > text. However, this doesn't argue against improvements in the user > interface when necessary! ...or even "when possible?" -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com