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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s?= Simonyi , org-mode-email , Ihor Radchenko , Nicolas Goaziou Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619038713; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=un+DMDOXAhiORcqY4bUsv1rsCeVW0SD0CQECuCif9H0=; b=HNpPCTl/Pt/Q1mkBlTH29iUxfaHlv7RFr6Zn1ltkdyUMQwX6xpUm8lB2g/vtyZULO0ETJM 6eFP1wEmbNnPNL0hvCL4z0mXx4/I1NgDzdWcSqQGJWeOGjPKF/pfllVs+/xToXPQZuGlri /YFpxX+pd1olUMpg2m7rEgj3Kuoryb+tAq9O9BT3eyWx4T9Eb/z3Uxi1O3wZRzGdHqVf+t WHfBoyixkuIgJ7Bbi+UiQXer5U7Cl94aMAVLr2U0sg4iFyZ8YfPCp+Hbybjji7gOYhBR3i gmXl0fxGcRFFdbZYf30F/WP07A4gy5n4fmacQg2pO+j54i6Utx4VqIARmGicqw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619038713; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bOcPX2MUmZmNb+nB7O20FttLmKvO6Mk4rQcGg4PK5IYnHZUOrWF0XQFW+PWFd1WQkn58UZ 9hh1mB/IwKctBiON6L+OiMjiSXb7S8dYbOS7JSIC+S/sO0q4WjOO4jLbsWA6WlwGWzo4E3 Y5pPIWxfqUqJvMxNAbJISX3zTdhTqbSq5RzQPLQMUgHVOWIeb6SZ2px6qYOqp88KcENc5F FrcIYP2ZXL7bgG8puUSkjbLSoLnHD8VdKFFjYo2EEEb+sXZY1WvkmP/+ujW+h4TYbBZZv6 hFShU+Y1l9nopKygdYA6nKuOBih5ht0awPThL6Y1hhuGBDS5p0LeEWl0D9B/Fw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=rKKVboVd; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=andrew.cmu.edu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.16 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=rKKVboVd; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=andrew.cmu.edu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: F1EBD1F384 X-Spam-Score: 0.16 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: r/tijt+1vavW and for completeness from the org-ref point of view, probably all of them call something like (org-ref-find-bibliography) inside those functions to get a list of bib sources from a hierarchy of local definitions in the buffer to env vars, to a default source variable defined in elisp. I think something similar is done in the bibtex-completion commands. Bruce D'Arcus writes: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 3:57 PM John Kitchin wrote: > >> I guess that the actions I use most often when "opening" a citation are, >> opening the pdf, going to the webpage for it, and then opening the >> bibtex entry (usually to fix capitalization or something). In org-ref >> though, there are a whole bunch of other potential actions, like >> searching for related citations, copying the key or formatted citation >> to the clipboard, etc. I guess my point is there are a lot of things >> that opening might mean to different people. > > Good point, which I missed. > > In bibtex-actions, which uses bibtex-completion as a backend, I have > the following "open" commands: > > - open-pdf > - open-link (doi or url) > - open (pdf, or link if not present) > - open-entry (bibtex, to edit) > - open-notes (to review, edit) > > All of those backend functions take KEYS as input. > > Bruce -- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu Pronouns: he/him/his