From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Wiegley Subject: Re: Allowing loose ordering in Org files Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:02:09 -0800 Message-ID: References: <871tc83p01.fsf@flynn.nichework.com> <84611j19hk.fsf@gmail.com> <5638C2A1.2090801@iancu.ch> <87h9l32gfc.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87d1vq3mh4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874mh23iw0.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878u6eu5wg.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <315DDEDC-1BD9-4680-A8C8-B36821EB931C@gmail.com> <874mh2u2w0.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87ziytyl3z.fsf@free.fr> <877flqskci.fsf@gmail.com> <87y4e5vjpw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46195) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwF7Q-0004xB-Qy for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:02:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwF7N-0000mj-K9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:02:16 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22f]:36152) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwF7N-0000mK-Fi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:02:13 -0500 Received: by pacdm15 with SMTP id dm15so6353041pac.3 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:02:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y4e5vjpw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:37:47 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> Nicolas Goaziou writes: > I really don't like the idea of making Org /syntax/ customizable, would it > be with the help of a hook or a variable. >From what I've seen so far, several users want regularity of syntax to decide formatting, and several users want user preference to decide formatting. There do seem to be larger costs for letting the user decide; but there are also costs to not letting the user decide, that I feel are not being appreciated. The reason I'm sticking on this point is because it also relates to our future road map. If Org continues to do this -- to trade flexibility of formatting for regularity of parsing -- it might continue to alienate some of us. John