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From: David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, John Wiegley <johnw@boostpro.com>
Subject: Re: Bug: org-install must precede customization [7.02trans]
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:28:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2eiap7vhs.wl%dave@boostpro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C368E3BA-2089-441E-BC87-1BE1661A7849@gmail.com>


Hi Carsten,

Is it merely the autoload of org-capture-templates, or is this a
general rule for everything in org-install?  I think I'm perfectly
happy to work with the dependency in place as long as it's documented.
For most people it wouldn't be an issue since custom-* puts its
custom-set-variables call at the end of the file.  I think you need to
be using something like initsplit to see the problem.

At Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:29:15 -0600,
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> thanks for investigating this.
> 
> It seems to me that the autoload has caused more problems than it
> solved - so I have removed the autoload again.
> 
> - Carsten
> 
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:45 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
> 
> >
> > Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
> > what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?
> > See
> >
> >     http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
> >
> > Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > There's an undocumented dependency between org-install and
> > customizations.  In particular, if custom-set-variables is called to
> > set
> > org-capture-templates, and then org-install is loaded,
> > org-capture-templates will be reset to nil.  I tested this with
> >
> >  emacs -Q
> >
> > Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple- 
> > appkit-1038.29)
> > of 2010-05-08 on black.local
> > Package: Org-mode version 7.02trans
> >
> > current state:
> > ==============
> > (setq
> > org-agenda-deadline-leaders '("D: " "D%d: ")
> > org-clock-in-switch-to-state "STARTED"
> > org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t
> > org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook '(org-beamer-after-initial- 
> > vars)
> > org-todo-keyword-faces '(("TODO" :foreground "medium blue" :weight
> > bold)
> >                          ("APPT" :foreground "medium blue" :weight
> > bold)
> >                          ("NOTE" :foreground "brown" :weight bold)
> >                          ("STARTED" :foreground "dark  orange"
> > :weight bold)
> >                          ("WAITING" :foreground "red" :weight bold)
> >                          ("DELEGATED" :foreground "dark  violet"
> > :weight bold)
> >                          ("DEFERRED" :foreground "dark blue" :weight
> > bold)
> >                          ("SOMEDAY" :foreground "dark blue" :weight
> > bold)
> >                          ("PROJECT" :height 1.5 :weight  bold
> > :foreground "black"))
> > org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook org-babel- 
> > speed-command-hook)
> > org-agenda-custom-commands '(("E" "Errands (next 3 days)" tags
> >                               "Errand&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>
> > \"CANCELLED\"&STYLE<>\"habit\"&SCHEDULED<\"<+3d>\""
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Errands (next 3 days)")
> >                                                                                                                 )
> >                               )
> >                              ("A" "Priority #A tasks" agenda ""
> >                               ((org-agenda-ndays 1)
> >                                (org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Today's priority #A tasks: ")
> >                                (org-agenda-skip-function
> >                                 (quote (org-agenda-skip-entry-if
> > (quote notregexp) "\\=.*\\[#A\\]"))
> >                                 )
> >                                )
> >                               )
> >                              ("B" "Priority #A and #B tasks" agenda ""
> >                               ((org-agenda-ndays 1)
> >                                (org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Today's priority #A and #B tasks: ")
> >                                (org-agenda-skip-function
> >                                 (quote (org-agenda-skip-entry-if
> > (quote regexp) "\\=.*\\[#C\\]")))
> >                                )
> >                               )
> >                              ("w" "Waiting/delegated tasks" tags
> >                               "TODO=\"WAITING\"|TODO=\"DELEGATED\""
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Waiting/delegated tasks:")
> >                                (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
> >                                 (quote (todo-state-up priority-down
> > category-up)))
> >                                )
> >                               )
> >                              ("u" "Unscheduled tasks" tags
> >                               "TODO<>\"\"&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>
> > \"CANCELLED\"&TODO<>\"NOTE\"&CATEGORY<>{CEG\\|ABC\\|Bizcard\\|Adagio\
> > \|EVAprint\\|\\<IT\\>}"
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Unscheduled tasks: ")
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                              (org
> > -agenda-skip-function
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                               (quote
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                         (org
> > -agenda-skip-entry-if
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                (quote
> > scheduled)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                (quote
> > deadline)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                (quote
> > timestamp)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                (quote
> > regexp)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                "\\*
> > \\(DEFERRED \\|SOMEDAY\\)")
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                         )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                               )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                              (org
> > -agenda-files
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                               (quote
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                 ("~
> > /Dropbox/todo.txt")
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                 )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                               )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                              (org
> > -agenda-sorting-strategy
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                               (quote
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                            (todo
> > -state-up priority-down category-up)
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                            )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                               )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                              )
> >                               )
> >                              ("U" "Deferred tasks" tags
> >                               "TODO=\"DEFERRED\"&CATEGORY<>{CEG\\|ABC
> > \\|Bizcard\\|Adagio\\|EVAprint\\|\\<IT\\>}"
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Deferred tasks:")
> >                                                                                                                   )
> >                               )
> >                              ("S" "Someday tasks" tags
> >                               "TODO=\"SOMEDAY\"&CATEGORY<>{CEG\\|ABC\
> > \|Bizcard\\|Adagio\\|EVAprint\\|\\<IT\\>}"
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Someday tasks:")
> >                                                                                                                  )
> >                               )
> >                              ("G" "Ledger tasks (all)" tags-todo
> > "TODO<>{SOMEDAY}"
> >                               ((org-agenda-files (quote ("~/src/
> > ledger/plan/TODO")))
> >                                (org-agenda-overriding-header "Ledger
> > tasks:")
> >                                (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
> >                                 (quote (todo-state-up priority-down
> > category-up)))
> >                                )
> >                               )
> >                              ("l" "Ledger tasks" tags-todo
> > "TODO<>{SOMEDAY\\|DEFERRED}"
> >                               ((org-agenda-files (quote ("~/src/
> > ledger/plan/TODO")))
> >                                (org-agenda-overriding-header "Ledger
> > tasks:")
> >                                (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
> >                                 (quote (todo-state-up priority-down
> > category-up)))
> >                                (org-agenda-skip-function
> >                                 (quote (org-agenda-skip-entry-if
> > (quote regexp) "\\=.*\\[#C\\]")))
> >                                )
> >                               )
> >                              ("L" "Ledger tasks not in Bugzilla"
> > alltodo ""
> >                               ((org-agenda-files (quote ("~/src/
> > ledger/plan/TODO")))
> >                                (org-agenda-overriding-header "Ledger
> > tasks:")
> >                                (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
> >                                 (quote (todo-state-up priority-down
> > category-up)))
> >                                (org-agenda-skip-function
> >                                 (quote (org-agenda-skip-entry-if
> > (quote regexp) "\\(bug:\\)")))
> >                                )
> >                               )
> >                              ("r" "Uncategorized items" tags
> > "CATEGORY=\"Inbox\"&LEVEL=2"
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Uncategorized items")))
> >                              ("W" "Unscheduled work tasks" tags
> >                               "CATEGORY={CEG\\|ABC\\|Bizcard\\|Adagio
> > \\|IT\\|EVAprint}&CATEGORY<>\"Website\"&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>
> > \"CANCELLED\"&TODO<>\"NOTE\"&TODO<>\"\"&LEVEL>1"
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header
> > "Unscheduled work tasks")
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                     (org
> > -agenda-skip-function
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                      (quote
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                (org
> > -agenda-skip-entry-if
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                       (quote
> > scheduled)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                       (quote
> > deadline)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                       )
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                      )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                     (org
> > -agenda-sorting-strategy
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                      (quote
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                   (todo
> > -state-up priority-down)
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                   )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                      )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                     )
> >                               )
> >                              ("z" "CEG tasks not in Bugzilla" tags
> >                               "CATEGORY={CEG\\|ABC\\|Bizcard\\|Adagio
> > \\|IT\\|EVAprint}&CATEGORY<>{Website\\|Admin}&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>
> > \"CANCELLED\"&TODO<>\"NOTE\"&TODO<>\"\"&LEVEL>1&SCOPE<>\"local\""
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header "CEG
> > tasks not in Bugzilla")
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                            (org
> > -agenda-skip-function
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                             (quote
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       (org
> > -agenda-skip-entry-if
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              (quote
> > regexp)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "\\(cegbug
> > :\\)")
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                             )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                            )
> >                               )
> >                              ("Z" "CEG tasks in Bugzilla" tags
> >                               "CATEGORY={CEG\\|ABC\\|Bizcard\\|Adagio
> > \\|IT\\|EVAprint}&TODO<>\"DONE\"&TODO<>\"CANCELLED\"&TODO<>
> > \"DELEGATED\"&TODO<>\"NOTE\"&LEVEL>1"
> >                               ((org-agenda-overriding-header "CEG
> > tasks in Bugzilla")
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                        (org
> > -agenda-skip-function
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                         (quote
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                   (org
> > -agenda-skip-entry-if
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                          (quote
> > notregexp)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                          "cegbug
> > :")
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                   )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                         )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                        (org
> > -agenda-sorting-strategy
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                         (quote
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                      (todo
> > -state-up category-down priority-down user-defined-up)
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                                                      )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                         )
> >
> >                                                                                                                                                                        )
> >                               )
> >                              )
> > org-agenda-files '("~/Dropbox/todo.txt" "~/Dropbox/Projects")
> > org-agenda-include-diary t
> > org-blocker-hook '(org-block-todo-from-children-or-siblings-or-parent)
> > org-agenda-menu-two-column t
> > org-agenda-tags-column -100
> > org-hide-leading-stars t
> > org-clock-into-drawer "LOGBOOK"
> > org-completion-use-ido t
> > org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
> > org-footnote-section nil
> > org-agenda-scheduled-leaders '("" "S%d: ")
> > org-archive-save-context-info '(time category itags)
> > org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
> > org-agenda-text-search-extra-files '(agenda-archives)
> > org-archive-location "TODO-archive::"
> > org-agenda-skip-unavailable-files t
> > org-agenda-default-appointment-duration 60
> > org-time-clocksum-use-fractional t
> > org-agenda-sorting-strategy '((agenda habit-down time-up todo-state- 
> > up priority-down category-keep)
> >                               (todo priority-down category-keep)
> > (tags priority-down category-keep)
> >                               (search category-keep))
> > org-export-blocks-postblock-hook '(org-exp-res/src-name-cleanup)
> > org-agenda-prefix-format '((agenda . "  %-11:c%?-12t% s")  (timeline
> > . "  % s") (todo . "  %-11:c")
> >                            (tags . "  %-11:c"))
> > org-habit-preceding-days 42
> > org-export-latex-format-toc-function 'org-export-latex-format-toc- 
> > default
> > org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
> > org-stuck-projects '("+LEVEL=1/-DONE" ("TODO" "STARTED" "NEXT"
> > "NEXTACTION") nil
> >                      "\\(Appointments\\|Notes\\|Anniversaries\\)")
> > org-clock-in-resume t
> > org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-eval-replace-snippts)
> > org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe org-src-native-tab- 
> > command-maybe
> >                      org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe)
> > org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
> > org-src-mode- 
> > configure-edit-buffer)
> > org-mac-mail-account "GMail: BoostPro"
> > org-cycle-global-at-bob t
> > org-confirm-shell-link-function nil
> > org-reveal-start-hook '(org-decrypt-entry)
> > org-export-first-hook '(org-beamer-initialize-open-trackers)
> > org-use-tag-inheritance nil
> > org-clock-persist 'history
> > org-todo-keywords '((sequence "TODO" "APPT" "|" "DONE" "NOTE"))
> > org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
> > org-M-RET-may-split-line '((headline) (default . t))
> > org-default-notes-file "~/Dropbox/todo.txt"
> > org-directory "~/Dropbox/Projects"
> > org-tag-alist '((#("LUANN" 0 5 (face nil)) . 110) (#("WORK" 0 4
> > (face nil)) . 119))
> > org-agenda-persistent-filter t
> > org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
> > org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide- 
> > drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
> >                  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
> > org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook '(org-remove- 
> > file-link-modifiers)
> > org-use-speed-commands t
> > org-mode-hook '((lambda nil (local-set-key [(control 44)] (quote
> > backward-word)))
> >                 #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
> >                   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show- 
> > block-all append local] 5]
> >                 #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
> >                   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-babel- 
> > show-result-all append local] 5]
> >                 org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
> > org-agenda-menu-show-matcher nil
> > org-clock-out-remove-zero-time-clocks t
> > org-font-lock-hook '(org-eval-handle-snippets)
> > org-agenda-ndays 1
> > org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files :level . 1) (org-agenda- 
> > files :todo . "PROJECT"))
> > org-extend-today-until 2
> > org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point org-babel-execute- 
> > safely-maybe)
> > org-confirm-elisp-link-function nil
> > org-fast-tag-selection-single-key 'expert
> > org-todo-repeat-to-state "TODO"
> > org-clock-modeline-total 'current
> > org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil
> > org-agenda-fontify-priorities t
> > org-export-interblocks '((lob org-babel-exp-lob-one-liners) (src
> > org- 
> > babel-exp-inline-src-blocks))
> > org-enforce-todo-dependencies t
> > org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t
> > org-reverse-note-order t
> > org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
> > org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook '(org- 
> > beamer-select-beamer-code)
> > org-agenda-cmp-user-defined 'org-cmp-ceg-bugs
> > org-export-preprocess-after-include-files-hook '(org-export-blocks- 
> > preprocess)
> > org-tags-column -97
> > org-modules '(org-crypt org-id org-habit org-mac-message org- 
> > bookmark org-eval)
> > org-agenda-auto-exclude-function 'org-my-auto-exclude-function
> > org-ellipsis 'org-habit-alert-face
> > org-export-latex-final-hook '(org-beamer-amend-header
> > org-beamer-fix- 
> > toc
> >                               org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames
> >                               org-beamer-place-default-actions-for- 
> > lists)
> > org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
> > org-clock-idle-time 10
> > org-attach-method 'mv
> > org-export-blocks '((src org-babel-exp-src-blocks nil) (comment org- 
> > export-blocks-format-comment t)
> >                     (ditaa org-export-blocks-format-ditaa nil)
> >                     (dot org-export-blocks-format-dot nil))
> > )
> > -- 
> > Dave Abrahams
> > BoostPro Computing
> > http://www.boostpro.com
> >
> >
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-13  3:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-12 18:45 Bug: org-install must precede customization [7.02trans] David Abrahams
2010-11-12 22:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-11-13  3:28   ` David Abrahams [this message]
2010-11-13  4:40     ` Carsten Dominik
2010-11-13  5:01       ` David Abrahams
2010-11-13  5:50         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-11-14 13:28           ` David Abrahams
2010-11-13  5:55     ` Anupam Sengupta
2010-11-13  6:00       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-11-14 13:29       ` David Abrahams

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