From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Martyn Jago Subject: Re: [BUG] Inconsistency in src block hiding Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:10:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8739djqfkv.fsf@gmail.com> <87fwhiwwr0.fsf@gmail.com> <87bos6pp1a.fsf@gmail.com> <8739dhnxjs.fsf@gmail.com> <87ipmcxboo.fsf@gmail.com> <87pqgjipu8.fsf@gmail.com> <87y5v6x3lv.fsf@gmail.com> <87fwh86533.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehwbdxk2.fsf@gnu.org> <874nx782wi.fsf@gmx.com> <87lip76p48.fsf@norang.ca> <87d3ai2p98.fsf@gmail.com> <8762ga6whl.fsf@norang.ca> <87pqehrnjv.fsf@gmx.com> <8739bc3ob5.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50361) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnqph-0005Oy-LA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:11:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnqpb-0007dF-FM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:11:09 -0500 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:37937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnqpa-0007d3-R1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:11:03 -0500 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RnqpW-0008MZ-Ce for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:10:58 +0100 Received: from 88-96-171-142.dsl.zen.co.uk ([88.96.171.142]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:10:58 +0100 Received: from martyn.jago by 88-96-171-142.dsl.zen.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:10:58 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Eric Schulte writes: > >> Well maybe we should roll back this change. > > Please don't. _That_ would be a regression. > These changes /have/ caused a software regression, and should be reverted immediately, since: - they change current expected and implemented behavior to the cost of users expectations and current use, with no prior discussion and agreement on behavior changes It has been proven that to achieve the required consistency set out by this thread /without/ breaking current expectations is less than straight-forward, and the changes should therefore be moved to EXPERIMENTAL - at least until the changes are proven not to break current expectations. Much of org-mode is currently inconsistent - and while it is highly desirable to improve on that situation, it should not become the major decision to change code at the cost of regression - org-mode is a very practical system used successfully by lots of (very appreciative) people, and while all users appreciate bug fixes / enhancements in the fast-moving repository that is org-mode (thanks Carsten), clear regression such as this should be avoided in master at all costs. At least that is my understanding of the development model as established by Carsten. If this is /not/ the case, then many people are wasting their time writing regression tests IMHO. Best, Martyn [...]