Re: ox-clip.el

[John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>]

Thanks for the feedback.

I noticed at the bottom of `gui-set-selection': Note that on MS-Windows,
primary and secondary selections set by Emacs are not available to other
programs. It looks like Emacs won't support this out of the box soon ;)
>
> But the text to be copied here is in RTF, but Emacs
> is hardcoded to copy texts. Damn. We have to use
> pbcopy or to change Emacs internal code.

>
> Now things go back to finding the culprit of
> overwriting the clipboard. And I traced to
> `evil-visual-update-x-selection’ called in 
> `evil-visual-{pre,post}-command’. Oh I don’t understand
> why evil does this. Disabling evil-mode works.

That sounds "evil". How do you ever copy anything? I still don't really
understand why it is an issue for ox-clip unless what is really happening
is evil messes up the active region which is exported by org-mode. The
ox-clip command doesn't touch the emacs clipboard at all I think. It
only uses system commands to put stuff on the system clipboards (which
are not directly visible to emacs in the first place).

The ox-clip commands don't currently copy anything you can paste back
into emacs. I have debated doing that, but it adds a noticeable lag for
the copy command since an org-export is involved, and if you are pasting
back to emacs that is not needed.

A solution would be a new copy command that just does a regular copy all
the time, but with a prefix arg does a formatted copy for pasting
elsewhere. I just use two different key bindings now. M-w for copy, and
H-k for formatted copy.

>
> Then here comes another bug:
>
> I’m testing on a Chinese org file. Here is the part:
>
> *** Evil-Surround
>
> [[https://github.com/timcharper/evil-surround][Evil-surround]] 是一个 Vim 上非常常用的插件改写的，使用它可以快速的将选中区域进行匹配的操作，例如选中区域两边同时进行添加或修改括号，引号等操作。
>
> 下载安装后使用下面的代码将其激活，
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
> (require 'evil-surround)
> (global-evil-surround-mode)
> #+END_SRC
>
> 简单的使用方法就是在选中所选区域后，使用  =S(= 来将选中区域包括在括号之中。如果想将括号改变成 ="= 可以在选中后使用 =cs("=
>
> You can get the whole file in https://github.com/emacs-china/Spacemacs-rocks/blob/master/README.org <https://github.com/emacs-china/Spacemacs-rocks/blob/master/README.org>.
>
> But pasting the formatted resulted this:
>
>
>
> The encoding is wrong. Adding a ‘-inputencoding UTF-8’ fixes it.
>

I added this to the macOSX command. thanks for the solution!

>
> Really cool! That’s what I want.
>
> Any workaround for that unwanted evil behaviour? I rely on evil a lot. 
>
>
>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 10:25 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Jiegec writes:
>> 
>>> I’m testing this in OS X. I can confirm this works though it seems to conflict with
>>> some other packages here which constantly copy the selected region and then
>>> overwrite the result of ox-clip.
>> What kind of package is that? None of the kill commands can use the
>> clipboard that ox-clip sends things too as far as I know. I don't see
>> how this is possible.
>> 
>>> I have checked the output of textutil and use the 
>>> same command in shell and that works. One feedback: are there internal functions
>>> to manipulate the system clipboard? I am in favour of those instead of
>>> pbcopy.
>> 
>> There are none that I know of (or I would have used them ;).
>> 
>>> As in mentioned in https://github.com/ChrisJohnsen/tmux-MacOSX-pasteboard <https://github.com/ChrisJohnsen/tmux-MacOSX-pasteboard> <https://github.com/ChrisJohnsen/tmux-MacOSX-pasteboard <https://github.com/ChrisJohnsen/tmux-MacOSX-pasteboard>>,
>>> pbcopy sometimes does not work. The link above says ‘Under Yosemite 
>>> (and later) pasteboard access seems to work fine without the program from 
>>> this repository.’ but this is not true in my laptop in OS X El Capitan
>>> 10.11.5.
>> 
>> That could be true. I don't have access to anything that modern yet. 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:16 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> its not there yet. I would like some people to test it out a little
>>>> maybe? get some feedback on it. Then it will probably go to MELPA.
>>>> 
>>>> Jiege Chen writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I extended the work I did here
>>>>>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2016/06/16/Copy-formatted-org-mode-text-from-Emacs-to-other-applications/
>>>>>> on copying formatted org-mode to other applications so it is
>>>>>> approximately cross-platform now. There is one command
>>>>>> `ox-clip-formatted-copy' that should copy a region in an org-file with
>>>>>> formatting to paste into other applications on Windows, Mac and Linux.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://github.com/jkitchin/scimax/blob/master/ox-clip.el
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Try it out!
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Impressive. I'd love ox-clip to be released in MELPA. Is that already done?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> Professor John Kitchin
>>>> Doherty Hall A207F
>>>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>>>> Carnegie Mellon University
>>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>>>> 412-268-7803
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>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Professor John Kitchin
>> Doherty Hall A207F
>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> 412-268-7803
>> @johnkitchin
>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu <http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/>


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