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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1648395486; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=3L19CMaeFws2mMnixHkK3CjSwWrZ8MG+20rcq9OZxno=; b=HcJMlPjECFyk4LjAzTvA0ZJ0FZbEAdarApl4yMMAIK5bUU/LV+xdiqdZU8g76tRhnIpPfO mo2tCyXcBkzbUI8wZgDrE8jVzQUts/Dmu9JseoLmGIRW68wk8Dt3fyIm9Q2u595rezSn7E LFvks/T+kpUWFPNZgvUIKP5E7tv0fG78UGKTxlZlwtf53jLmmTL+LIj4zxonIZaWs2nUOX 6LMglXu5NJzBNHES6jWVlQNamP5eUzPDknQT58g4azHqlObDUpJZ2hCEiKwVIm3WU+XPpa UzTXFr/Jn+2CfG2boDj7Yt3KsQVytxtGOHwyaEBsqqDXLhWgVIpu0uvZyr75nw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1648395486; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=t+wYQQy97CbwCGySD/ee1O4eRgQpG+1HbFII93cPqXKOudJU74se5fALwqm1e2fXL6LLm8 3JSxUrjNm6sDGXVH7YUYyaj5RxFADbLhWO+VGAjwRKs+M/yaOGXfN/1i5QU9Zm8NRh+U/2 oinrnCrGetTgHgY9hSaSCd13aIcsduLYfRC9JOSmUDwItWBDVnmu4NtYLlt2r1g4mb81cJ Eiqh4TS09JonyX5kjdNf3sLhyyNvBrkNaP42XSlX3ikR8oUriPPa9JnNfjdRgMOHddR/90 RDcwrxB7vN+LkBMOq0iBnAcxcOgjynGSDpUVNkW3sCEgEyZnGO/Jg3SrImYefg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Z7xpHT8+; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=andrew.cmu.edu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 6.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Z7xpHT8+; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=andrew.cmu.edu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 898C8317AF X-Spam-Score: 6.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: Y28nFsk6FcYp I have updated the readme in org-ref to indicate you can use both packages. Max Nikulin writes: > On 21/03/2022 18:51, John Kitchin wrote: >> Vikas Rawal writes: >>> >>> From the perspective of a user, this was only meant to express a >>> sentiment that one finds oneself in a situation of having to choose >>> between two good things, and that we have not been able to find a way >>> to make both compatible with each other. It was in not meant as a >>> disrespect in any way. >> I don't think you have to choose. You can use org-cite for >> citations, and org-ref for cross-references. The citation syntax is >> orthogonal, you just should not mix them. You can even wire org-ref to >> use org-cite-insert like this: >> (setq org-ref-insert-cite-function (lambda () (org-cite-insert nil))) > > I am glad to read this. John, could you, please, update the README file for > https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref to clarify that both packages may be used > within the same document while org-ref is used solely for cross-references (I > may create a github issue if your prefer)? From my point of view the following > phrase may be considered as prohibitive in respect to combining the packages for > any purpose: > >> You can use both org-cite and org-ref (although you should not do that in the >> same document as they are independent citation tools). > I feel some ambiguity in the starting message in this thread: > > Vikas Rawal, Sun, 20 Mar 2022 17:38:30 +0530. > https://list.orgmode.org/CALtzAB2BHULDOXaamUZFQh2H453Ekb6K7bkOHbU-dHPn98avwg@mail.gmail.com > >> This obviously creates many problems including that two people using >> different citation systems cannot share org files. > Accordingly to the org-ref README installed org-ref package does not break > org-cite, so people are free to share documents. They just should have both > packages configured and should adhere to a chosen package in each document (for > *citations*). -- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu Pronouns: he/him/his