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From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Peter Neilson <neilson@windstream.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: evil-mode and org
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 11:12:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m237dwqfqh.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.yxtbgxcgrns8nc@odin>

Using evil-mode is not "using vim" IMHO. I think this is a question of
do you want modal editing or not (I suppose it could also be do you want
emacs-lisp or vimscript, but that is not the impression I get these days
;). With emacs you can have either traditional emacs editing (one-mode:
edit) or modal editing like vim (for the most part). And you can still
use emacs-lisp to customize the environment so you can have things like
org-mode.

I have seen a growing movement towards modal editing in emacs, e.g.
evil-mode, spacemacs, hydra, avy/ivy, etc... and even do some things
modally myself with those tools.

Peter Neilson writes:

> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:57:40 -0400, Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've never used Vim but I see a lot of people online raving about evil
>> mode
>> and how much they love it. I'm considering giving it a whirl after the
>> semester ends & I get some free time. I just wondered whether any heavy
>> org
>> users here on the list use evil, and if so, whether you see pain points
>> within org-mode -- my setup is pretty heavily customized, for instance,
>> and
>> I wonder whether that means it will be quite painful to use evil.
>
> You will also find people asking why anyone would ever think of using vim.
> One of those is Aaron Bieber.
> https://blog.aaronbieber.com/2016/01/30/dig-into-org-mode.html
>
> I use vim only when unavoidable, and I simply pretend it is ed (of ancient
> Unix days). Or maybe I just use ed. I would not bother trying to use ed to
> access org, and thus would not be tempted to use vi, vim or evil mode for
> org, either. One fine day, long, long ago, I had to use a Vax that did not
> have emacs, vim, vi or ed. It did have whatever DEC was using for an
> editor, but I didn't know how to use it instantly. What to do? What to do?
> I tried running TECO. Yes, it had TECO! Saved! (Sort of.)
>
> Why use vim if emacs is already built into your fingertips?


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-29 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-28 12:57 evil-mode and org Matt Price
2017-03-28 13:23 ` Peter Neilson
2017-03-29 15:12   ` John Kitchin [this message]
2017-03-29 17:36     ` Peter Neilson
2017-03-30  1:33     ` John Hendy
2017-03-30  1:37   ` John Hendy
     [not found] ` <e73a5e1e52db498f95cf60c7a983be27@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2017-03-29 15:21   ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found] <1a0d15aafd944fa3864394d8e212046f@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2017-03-29 15:11 ` Eric S Fraga
2017-03-30 10:14   ` Guido Van Hoecke
2017-03-30 17:03     ` Guido Van Hoecke
     [not found]   ` <2addcb35f67b455ba02295550e5b2ec7@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2017-03-30 15:48     ` Eric S Fraga
2017-04-10 12:22       ` Matt Price
     [not found]       ` <013bacb6be3a49b1b8633fb7d2ad1ddc@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2017-04-10 14:49         ` Eric S Fraga

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