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From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)
To: "András Major" <andras.g.major@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug: :noexport: tag prevents table functioning	as	babel	code block input [7.7 (release_7.7.167.gfceb)]
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:38:12 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1vctnr95n.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20110824T003644-61@post.gmane.org> ("András Major"'s message of "Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:44:01 +0000 (UTC)")

András Major <andras.g.major@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Bastien,
>
>> > I think that anything that works despite being designed and documented
>> > otherwise is confusing to the user and should be considered a bug.
>> > I'm happy that it no longer works and hope that it stays that way.
>> 
>> I think tags are clearly documented as being properties of the
>> headlines -- if there is places in the manual that we can improve 
>> in this respect, please suggest a patch.
>
> I'm not talking about the manual.  In my opinion, if there is a
> function that works only on headlines according to the manual, then it
> *must not* work in any other place.  Otherwise some users might try
> the function they once heard of in a sense not specified in the
> documentation (here: in a table) and see that it works, and be
> surprised when it no longer does (in a future version of org-mode, or
> on a different computer).  Therefore such "ghost features" must
> actively be eliminated.
>
> To me, the documentation is the leading specification of a piece of
> software.  Anything the software doesn't do that is in the docs is a
> bug, but likewise anything it does do which the docs don't cover is
> also a bug.

Aloha Andras,

As an avocational programmer who has had the pleasure of making small
changes to the Org-mode manual and on-line documentation, this last bit
seems to raise the bar impractically high.  Part of Org-mode's appeal to
me is that people frequently find new, and at least to me unexpected,
ways to use it productively.  I find it interesting to see how best to
change the documentation to incorporate the new "discovery."  That said,
the idea that the docs cover *everything* that Org-mode is capable of
doing is wonderful and I'll be happy to chip in when I can to help you
achieve that goal.

All the best,
Tom

>
>> I don't think it's reasonable to document the fact that tags are
>> not meant to be used in tables, blocks, lists, timestamps, etc.
>
> I fully agree.
>
>   András
>
>
>
>

-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-23 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-23 11:04 Bug: :noexport: tag prevents table functioning as babel code block input [7.7 (release_7.7.167.gfceb)] András Major
2011-08-23 11:26 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-08-23 11:38   ` András Major
2011-08-23 14:23     ` Bastien
2011-08-23 22:35       ` András Major
2011-08-23 14:09 ` Bastien
2011-08-23 14:38 ` Eric Schulte
2011-08-23 15:12   ` András Major
2011-08-23 15:47     ` Eric Schulte
2011-08-23 16:01       ` András Major
2011-08-23 16:18         ` Bastien
2011-08-23 22:44           ` András Major
2011-08-23 23:38             ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2011-08-24  6:35               ` András Major
2011-08-24  7:22                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-08-24  8:28                   ` Bastien
2011-08-24 16:41                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-08-24  8:26                 ` Bastien
2011-08-24  8:34             ` Bastien
2011-08-23 17:19         ` Eric Schulte
2011-08-23 22:51           ` András Major
2011-08-23 23:03             ` Nick Dokos
2011-08-23 23:44               ` Eric Schulte
2011-08-24  0:14                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-08-24  7:41                 ` András Major
2011-08-23 16:14       ` Bastien

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