* Re: org mode in press
2012-01-28 11:14 ` Christian Wittern
@ 2012-01-28 13:59 ` rick frankel
2012-01-29 9:06 ` Christian Wittern
2012-01-28 16:18 ` Thomas S. Dye
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: rick frankel @ 2012-01-28 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Wittern; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:14, Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The one dependency I could not solve was the 'dot' executable. I assume this is an interpreter for the dot language, for which it seems the program on the Mac is named graphviz. However, I am not sure how to make that work with org/babel. Should I simply symlink to graphviz? Or is there a babel variable to be set? This is a point that probably needs some explanation, at least for Mac users (I realize that the articel might not have been intended as such a general introduction with details for all common OSses, but it would be nice if this can be gradually supplemented).
The dot executable is part of the graphviz package. Installing graphviz should install the dot command line executable alongw w/ neato, circo and and other layout engines.
Rick
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread* Re: org mode in press
2012-01-28 11:14 ` Christian Wittern
2012-01-28 13:59 ` rick frankel
@ 2012-01-28 16:18 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-28 16:34 ` Dov Grobgeld
2012-01-28 16:28 ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-28 17:11 ` Eric Schulte
3 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2012-01-28 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Wittern; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Aloha Christian,
Thanks for your comments. It is great to have feedback.
Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com> writes:
> I think this is an excellent article, introducing an aspect of
> org-mode, which I think fills a gap that no other software I know of
> comes even close to approach. I already started mentioning it in
> conversations and am sure it will be very useful to many members of
> the academic community.
>
> Just to make sure I could answer any follow up questions, I downloaded
> the replication bundle and started installing the dependencies. I
> encountered a few problems and hope this is the right place to discuss
> them. BTW, I am working with this on a Mac OS X 10.6 machine.
>
> Most of the dependencies I already had or installed them from
> macports. One problem I encountered was with installing the RSQLite
> package. Executing the installation command from the README file did
> not work because of permission issues, the command needs to run with
> superuser rights. Is it possible to give these rights to commands run
> from babel? Since I did not find a way to do that, I installed from
> the R commandline, where I found that the name of the package is
> RSQLite, not 'RSQlite' as given in the readme file.
>
> The one dependency I could not solve was the 'dot' executable. I
> assume this is an interpreter for the dot language, for which it seems
> the program on the Mac is named graphviz. However, I am not sure how
> to make that work with org/babel. Should I simply symlink to
> graphviz? Or is there a babel variable to be set? This is a point
> that probably needs some explanation, at least for Mac users (I
> realize that the articel might not have been intended as such a
> general introduction with details for all common OSses, but it would
> be nice if this can be gradually supplemented).
>
> One last remark; since this is an online publication, I think using
> proper fontification for the examples and org source code would be
> even more appealing, especially for people who encounter org for the
> first time.
Could you be more specific here? It might be obvious to others, but I
don't understand what you mean by "proper fontification."
All the best,
Tom
>
> Keep up the excellent work!!
>
> Christian
>
>
>
> On 2012-01-27 23:43, Eric Schulte wrote:
>> Hopefully this will serve as the canonical introduction to working with
>> code blocks in Org-mode.
>>
>> As we acknowledge in the paper this work would not have been possible
>> without the ideas and feedback of the Org-mode community, so thanks all!
>>
>> Nick Dokos<nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
>>
>>> Andreas Leha<andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> this just came into my inbox:
>>>> http://www.jstatsoft.org/v46/i03
>>>>
>>>> Great work! Big thanks to the authors.
>>>>
>>> I remember reading it with great pleasure back when Eric posted it to
>>> the list: beautiful stuff. I look forward to rereading it.
>>>
>>> Congratulations!
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
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* Re: org mode in press
2012-01-28 16:18 ` Thomas S. Dye
@ 2012-01-28 16:34 ` Dov Grobgeld
2012-01-28 17:06 ` Eric Schulte
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Dov Grobgeld @ 2012-01-28 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: Christian Wittern, emacs-orgmode
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I would also like to thank you for this great article and org-mode in
general. I learned a few things about variables and chaining that I did not
know about. Since I discovered org-mode, I have come to rely upon it as my
extended memory for professional as well as domestic ideas and problems
that I encounter. I keep one big notes.org file in which my first level
headlines is the current date, and my second order headline usually
contains a "Done/Todo" which is a checklist of things that I have to do. I
also love the embedded code (though I wish it was possible to syntax
highlight it!), external links, and tables.
Thanks again!
Dov
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 18:18, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> Aloha Christian,
>
> Thanks for your comments. It is great to have feedback.
>
> Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I think this is an excellent article, introducing an aspect of
> > org-mode, which I think fills a gap that no other software I know of
> > comes even close to approach. I already started mentioning it in
> > conversations and am sure it will be very useful to many members of
> > the academic community.
> >
> > Just to make sure I could answer any follow up questions, I downloaded
> > the replication bundle and started installing the dependencies. I
> > encountered a few problems and hope this is the right place to discuss
> > them. BTW, I am working with this on a Mac OS X 10.6 machine.
> >
> > Most of the dependencies I already had or installed them from
> > macports. One problem I encountered was with installing the RSQLite
> > package. Executing the installation command from the README file did
> > not work because of permission issues, the command needs to run with
> > superuser rights. Is it possible to give these rights to commands run
> > from babel? Since I did not find a way to do that, I installed from
> > the R commandline, where I found that the name of the package is
> > RSQLite, not 'RSQlite' as given in the readme file.
> >
> > The one dependency I could not solve was the 'dot' executable. I
> > assume this is an interpreter for the dot language, for which it seems
> > the program on the Mac is named graphviz. However, I am not sure how
> > to make that work with org/babel. Should I simply symlink to
> > graphviz? Or is there a babel variable to be set? This is a point
> > that probably needs some explanation, at least for Mac users (I
> > realize that the articel might not have been intended as such a
> > general introduction with details for all common OSses, but it would
> > be nice if this can be gradually supplemented).
> >
> > One last remark; since this is an online publication, I think using
> > proper fontification for the examples and org source code would be
> > even more appealing, especially for people who encounter org for the
> > first time.
>
> Could you be more specific here? It might be obvious to others, but I
> don't understand what you mean by "proper fontification."
>
> All the best,
> Tom
>
> >
> > Keep up the excellent work!!
> >
> > Christian
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2012-01-27 23:43, Eric Schulte wrote:
> >> Hopefully this will serve as the canonical introduction to working with
> >> code blocks in Org-mode.
> >>
> >> As we acknowledge in the paper this work would not have been possible
> >> without the ideas and feedback of the Org-mode community, so thanks all!
> >>
> >> Nick Dokos<nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> Andreas Leha<andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> this just came into my inbox:
> >>>> http://www.jstatsoft.org/v46/i03
> >>>>
> >>>> Great work! Big thanks to the authors.
> >>>>
> >>> I remember reading it with great pleasure back when Eric posted it to
> >>> the list: beautiful stuff. I look forward to rereading it.
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations!
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>>
>
> --
> Thomas S. Dye
> http://www.tsdye.com
>
>
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* Re: org mode in press
2012-01-28 16:34 ` Dov Grobgeld
@ 2012-01-28 17:06 ` Eric Schulte
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eric Schulte @ 2012-01-28 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dov Grobgeld; +Cc: Christian Wittern, emacs-orgmode
Dov Grobgeld <dov.grobgeld@gmail.com> writes:
> I would also like to thank you for this great article and org-mode in
> general. I learned a few things about variables and chaining that I did not
> know about. Since I discovered org-mode, I have come to rely upon it as my
> extended memory for professional as well as domestic ideas and problems
> that I encounter. I keep one big notes.org file in which my first level
> headlines is the current date, and my second order headline usually
> contains a "Done/Todo" which is a checklist of things that I have to
> do.
Great to hear, happy it is useful even to those who already have
Org-mode experience.
> I also love the embedded code (though I wish it was possible to syntax
> highlight it!),
It is possible, just add the following to your Emacs configuration.
(setq org-src-fontify-natively t)
Cheers,
> external links, and tables.
>
> Thanks again!
> Dov
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 18:18, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
>
>> Aloha Christian,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments. It is great to have feedback.
>>
>> Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > I think this is an excellent article, introducing an aspect of
>> > org-mode, which I think fills a gap that no other software I know of
>> > comes even close to approach. I already started mentioning it in
>> > conversations and am sure it will be very useful to many members of
>> > the academic community.
>> >
>> > Just to make sure I could answer any follow up questions, I downloaded
>> > the replication bundle and started installing the dependencies. I
>> > encountered a few problems and hope this is the right place to discuss
>> > them. BTW, I am working with this on a Mac OS X 10.6 machine.
>> >
>> > Most of the dependencies I already had or installed them from
>> > macports. One problem I encountered was with installing the RSQLite
>> > package. Executing the installation command from the README file did
>> > not work because of permission issues, the command needs to run with
>> > superuser rights. Is it possible to give these rights to commands run
>> > from babel? Since I did not find a way to do that, I installed from
>> > the R commandline, where I found that the name of the package is
>> > RSQLite, not 'RSQlite' as given in the readme file.
>> >
>> > The one dependency I could not solve was the 'dot' executable. I
>> > assume this is an interpreter for the dot language, for which it seems
>> > the program on the Mac is named graphviz. However, I am not sure how
>> > to make that work with org/babel. Should I simply symlink to
>> > graphviz? Or is there a babel variable to be set? This is a point
>> > that probably needs some explanation, at least for Mac users (I
>> > realize that the articel might not have been intended as such a
>> > general introduction with details for all common OSses, but it would
>> > be nice if this can be gradually supplemented).
>> >
>> > One last remark; since this is an online publication, I think using
>> > proper fontification for the examples and org source code would be
>> > even more appealing, especially for people who encounter org for the
>> > first time.
>>
>> Could you be more specific here? It might be obvious to others, but I
>> don't understand what you mean by "proper fontification."
>>
>> All the best,
>> Tom
>>
>> >
>> > Keep up the excellent work!!
>> >
>> > Christian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2012-01-27 23:43, Eric Schulte wrote:
>> >> Hopefully this will serve as the canonical introduction to working with
>> >> code blocks in Org-mode.
>> >>
>> >> As we acknowledge in the paper this work would not have been possible
>> >> without the ideas and feedback of the Org-mode community, so thanks all!
>> >>
>> >> Nick Dokos<nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >>> Andreas Leha<andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> this just came into my inbox:
>> >>>> http://www.jstatsoft.org/v46/i03
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Great work! Big thanks to the authors.
>> >>>>
>> >>> I remember reading it with great pleasure back when Eric posted it to
>> >>> the list: beautiful stuff. I look forward to rereading it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Congratulations!
>> >>>
>> >>> Nick
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>
>> --
>> Thomas S. Dye
>> http://www.tsdye.com
>>
>>
--
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
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* Re: org mode in press
2012-01-28 11:14 ` Christian Wittern
2012-01-28 13:59 ` rick frankel
2012-01-28 16:18 ` Thomas S. Dye
@ 2012-01-28 16:28 ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-28 17:21 ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-28 17:11 ` Eric Schulte
3 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-01-28 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Wittern; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode
Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com> wrote:
> The one dependency I could not solve was the 'dot' executable. I
> assume this is an interpreter for the dot language, for which it seems
> the program on the Mac is named graphviz. However, I am not sure how
> to make that work with org/babel. Should I simply symlink to
> graphviz? Or is there a babel variable to be set? This is a point
> that probably needs some explanation, at least for Mac users (I
> realize that the articel might not have been intended as such a
> general introduction with details for all common OSses, but it would
> be nice if this can be gradually supplemented).
>
On linux, the graphviz package install a bunch of libraries and a bunch of
commands. The commands are:
,----
| Graph layout programs
| dot filter for hierarchical layouts of graphs
|
| neato filter for symmetric layouts of graphs
|
| twopi filter for radial layouts of graphs
|
| circo filter for circular layout of graphs
|
| fdp filter for symmetric layouts of graphs
|
| All of the filters work with either directed or undirected graphs, though dot is typically
| used for directed graphs and neato for undirected graphs. Note also that neato -n[2] can be
| used to render layouts produced by the other filters.
|
| Graph drawing programs
| lefty A Programmable Graphics Editor
|
| lneato lefty + neato
|
| dotty lefty + dot
|
| Graph layout enhancement
| gvcolor
| flow colors through a ranked digraph
|
| unflatten
| adjust directed graphs to improve layout aspect ratio
|
| gvpack merge and pack disjoint graphs
|
| Graph information and transformation
| gc count graph components
|
| acyclic
| make directed graph acyclic
|
| nop pretty-print graph file
|
| ccomps connected components filter for graphs
|
| sccmap extract strongly connected components of directed graphs
|
| tred transitive reduction filter for directed graphs
|
| dijkstra
| single-source distance filter
|
| bcomps biconnected components filter for graphs
|
| gvpr graph pattern scanning and processing language
|
| prune prune directed graphs
|
| Other
| gxl2dot, dot2gxl
| GXL-DOT converters
`----
There is no "graphviz" executable as such. I would expect a similar setup
on MacOS. The man page refers to http://www.graphviz.org/Documentation.php
for more info.
HTH,
Nick
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* Re: org mode in press
2012-01-28 16:28 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2012-01-28 17:21 ` Nick Dokos
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-01-28 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Christian Wittern, nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode
Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
> Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The one dependency I could not solve was the 'dot' executable. I
> > assume this is an interpreter for the dot language, for which it seems
> > the program on the Mac is named graphviz. However, I am not sure how
> > to make that work with org/babel. Should I simply symlink to
> > graphviz? Or is there a babel variable to be set? This is a point
> > that probably needs some explanation, at least for Mac users (I
> > realize that the articel might not have been intended as such a
> > general introduction with details for all common OSses, but it would
> > be nice if this can be gradually supplemented).
> >
>
> On linux, the graphviz package install a bunch of libraries and a bunch of
> commands. The commands are:
>
> ...
... and afaict, all the commands are symlinks to the dot executable
(/usr/bin/dot).
Nick
>
> There is no "graphviz" executable as such. I would expect a similar setup
> on MacOS. The man page refers to http://www.graphviz.org/Documentation.php
> for more info.
>
> HTH,
> Nick
>
>
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* Re: org mode in press
2012-01-28 11:14 ` Christian Wittern
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2012-01-28 16:28 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2012-01-28 17:11 ` Eric Schulte
3 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eric Schulte @ 2012-01-28 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Wittern; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com> writes:
> I think this is an excellent article, introducing an aspect of
> org-mode, which I think fills a gap that no other software I know of
> comes even close to approach. I already started mentioning it in
> conversations and am sure it will be very useful to many members of
> the academic community.
>
Wonderful.
>
> Just to make sure I could answer any follow up questions, I downloaded
> the replication bundle and started installing the dependencies. I
> encountered a few problems and hope this is the right place to discuss
> them. BTW, I am working with this on a Mac OS X 10.6 machine.
>
> Most of the dependencies I already had or installed them from
> macports. One problem I encountered was with installing the RSQLite
> package. Executing the installation command from the README file did
> not work because of permission issues, the command needs to run with
> superuser rights.
This is surprising, on the two GNU/Linux distributions I've tested this
on I am prompted to pick an R install directory which defaults to ~/R in
my home directory so no super-user privileges are required. My original
motivation for switching from OSX to GNU/Linux was precisely this sort
of weird Mac-specific library install issues across a number of tools
(most notably LaTeX). Although, a couple of years after switching my
reasons for not switching back are legion. :)
> Is it possible to give these rights to commands run from babel? Since
> I did not find a way to do that, I installed from the R commandline,
> where I found that the name of the package is RSQLite, not 'RSQlite'
> as given in the readme file.
>
> The one dependency I could not solve was the 'dot' executable. I
> assume this is an interpreter for the dot language, for which it seems
> the program on the Mac is named graphviz. However, I am not sure how
> to make that work with org/babel. Should I simply symlink to
> graphviz? Or is there a babel variable to be set? This is a point
> that probably needs some explanation, at least for Mac users (I
> realize that the articel might not have been intended as such a
> general introduction with details for all common OSses, but it would
> be nice if this can be gradually supplemented).
>
> One last remark; since this is an online publication, I think using
> proper fontification for the examples and org source code would be
> even more appealing, especially for people who encounter org for the
> first time.
>
> Keep up the excellent work!!
>
Thanks!,
>
> Christian
>
>
>
> On 2012-01-27 23:43, Eric Schulte wrote:
>> Hopefully this will serve as the canonical introduction to working with
>> code blocks in Org-mode.
>>
>> As we acknowledge in the paper this work would not have been possible
>> without the ideas and feedback of the Org-mode community, so thanks all!
>>
>> Nick Dokos<nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
>>
>>> Andreas Leha<andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> this just came into my inbox:
>>>> http://www.jstatsoft.org/v46/i03
>>>>
>>>> Great work! Big thanks to the authors.
>>>>
>>> I remember reading it with great pleasure back when Eric posted it to
>>> the list: beautiful stuff. I look forward to rereading it.
>>>
>>> Congratulations!
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
--
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
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