From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: Not merging org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt to the core Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:44:52 -1000 Message-ID: References: <81ei0e6vol.fsf@gmail.com> <20110822094816.0f61f019@vknecht-intel.unibw-hamburg.de> <80k4a5ab4f.fsf@somewhere.org> <81zkiz8zdw.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58269) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qw895-0003YJ-Nh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:45:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qw894-0004Pk-Et for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:45:07 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52915) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qw894-0004O3-2X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:45:06 -0400 Received: from public by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qw892-0001wS-Nw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:45:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <81zkiz8zdw.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Wed, 24 Aug 2011 05:16:35 +0530") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@plane.gmane.org, Sebastien Vauban Jambunathan K writes: >> Hi Jambunathan, >> >>> I have made a decision not to merge org-lparse, org-xhtml & org-odt in >>> to Orgmode core. It is a very difficult decision for me to take >>> considering that I had put all my heart in to it. (Btw, this decision >>> has nothing to with me not having enough time at hand.) >> >> As all, I'm puzzled by this statement, and wonder what went wrong >> somehow. > > Without mincing words, Bastien has to learn how to respect and engage > with serious contributors. He should take time to look at the data > presented to him and put some serious effort before sending out an > email. I am willing to overlook the fact that he seriously pissed me off > with unkind words and committed a greater faux paus by inviting Lennart > Borgman in to merge discussions. I am sorry to say this - Lennart > Borgman did a half-baked work. > > I have been patient and tried my best to be as co-operative as > possible. He just manages to get me on my nerves somehow. He simply > didn't have the courtesy to reply to my mails when he simply disappeared > from the list for 3 months or so. I hate to such callous attitude who > claims to be a maintainer and wants to act like a maintainer. > Aloha Jambunathan K, It is good to have you back. The Org-mode community is poorer without you. Please understand that the Org-mode community is a community of volunteers, committed to the cause of interesting and useful software. When one of us contributes, as you have so generously, the contribution represents commitment to that cause. I have nothing but admiration for the contributions of Lennart Borgman and Bastien Guerry. I am eager to see what they will contribute next. I hope that you'll join me in expressing gratitude for all that they have contributed and that, like me, you'll encourage them to contribute as the spirit moves them. I don't see any other way a community of volunteers can move forward. All the best, Tom >> What you did is a really important piece of the puzzle, as it finally >> let us cooperate more easily with people we can't convert as >> Org'ers. At least, they won't bother us to fit their software >> requirement: we can work in Org up till the very end, and then produce >> a final result in the expected (by others) format. >> >>> I leave it up to the community on what would be the best place to "host" >>> this software. >> >> For me, the answer to this was/is clear: Org-mode itself, hence the reason >> why I don't understand the above. > > I have definite ideas on how the merge should proceed. He should be > willing to concede to the fact that I have a far better understanding on > what the most effective method of merge is. > > Bastien has stepped in to big shoes and he has to measure up. > >> Best regards, >> Seb -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com