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From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)
To: Torsten Wagner <torsten.wagner@gmail.com>
Cc: FengShu <tumashu@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: layout org-babel menu WAS: About org-babel menu
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 05:40:31 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1r4w0vpg0.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPaq-gNVx1RNO=xOGKPQ5X-gL_OmG-Fv59OfC-CZSbpGwoeXwA@mail.gmail.com> (Torsten Wagner's message of "Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:51:56 +0900")

Torsten Wagner <torsten.wagner@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> for me the biggest "trouble" with babel is to remember the possible
> keywords in the header for different languages.
> There were a lot of ongoing syntax change which did not make it easier
> for me to remember all this.
> Thus a menu which is organised by languages offering all possible
> settings for each language would be very helpful.
> |
> Python
> |    |
> |  export - code - result - both - none
> |    |
> |  tangle - no - yes- filename
> |   |
> |  result - value - output
> |  |
> | ...
> |
> ...
>
> Not sure how effectual this would be in a main menu. It would be
> definitely awesome in a context menu
>
> That would be (copied from worg) [*] indicates cursor position
>
> #+NAME: factorial
> #+BEGIN_SRC haskell [*] :results silent :exports code :var n=0
>
> a context menu would appear presenting all possible header arguments for haskell
>
> #+NAME: factorial
> #+BEGIN_SRC haskell :results [*] :exports code :var n=0
>
> a context menu presenting all possible values for the header argument
> :results in haskell
> I guess that together with the possibility to call this menu by
> keyboard strokes or alternatively show the same infos in the
> minibuffer would be a great win for babel and it would make many
> questions here on the list unnecessary.
> Furthermore, any change or extension in the syntax for a certain
> language would be directly reflected to the end-user. E.g., If I
> suddenly see the menu entry :exports 3dprint, I would be curious and
> check it out on worg and the manual ;)
>
> Totti

Aloha Totti,

I wonder if your context menu idea might be easy to accomplish with a
function template?  YASnippet has a way to choose a value from a list.

All the best,
Tom

>
>
>
> On 5 April 2012 21:44, Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 28/03/12 01:07, Bastien wrote:
>>>> Hi Rainer,
>>>>
>>>> Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> So I would see it as a useful way of promoting babel (and therefore org-mode) and also as a
>>>>> nice reminder of less frequently (but nevertheless usefull) functionality.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone volunteering for listing the items in such a menu for Babel?
>>>>
>>>> If so, I'm willing to implement this.
>>> OK - let me start this.
>>>
>>> Org
>>> |
>>> + Babel
>>>   |
>>>   + edit
>>>   |  |
>>>   |  + open surce buffer (that C-c ')
>>>   |  + insert source block skeleton
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |
>>>   + tangle
>>>   |  |
>>>   |  + tangle buffer
>>>   |  + inverse tangle
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |
>>>   + evaluate
>>>   |  |
>>>   |  + evaluate code block
>>>   |  + evaluate subtree
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |
>>>   + help
>>>   |  |
>>>   |  + Link to info help on header arguments
>>>   |  + Link to info help on how to enable languages
>>>   |  + URL to language specific help on worg
>>>   |  + ...
>>>   |  + ...
>>>
>>>
>>> So - At the moment this is a skeleton of the babel menu - Comments? forgotten commands (I assume
>>> many?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Rainer,
>>
>> Thanks for starting this.  It looks like a great skeleton.  Here are a
>> couple of comments which I hope are helpful.
>>
>> To find more publicly available Babel function you can do C-c C-v h in
>> an Org-mode buffer or run the org-babel-describe-bindings command
>>
>> There are two high level sub-menus which I may suggest be added to the
>> above, namely "languages" and "library of babel", which could list
>> information on available languages and list library of babel functions
>> respectively.
>>
>> I'm not sure how menus are normally used, specifically how Emacs breaks
>> functionality between the menu, configuration and help sub-systems.  It
>> is possible that because of such boundaries both the "help" and
>> "languages" submenus may not be appropriate.
>>
>> Two other pieces of menu content which occur to me are a list of the
>> code blocks available in the current buffer including some information
>> on each block (e.g., name, arguments,), and a way to show the user what
>> the current file wide header arguments are -- note: there already exists
>> a function for displaying this information on the code block level
>> `org-babel-view-source-block-info' which may be sufficient.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not convince we should have a menu item to (de)activate each language though -- more a menu
>>>> that exposes the basics.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rainer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Eric Schulte
>> http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
>>
>
>

-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-06 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-19 13:22 About org-babel menu FengShu
2012-03-19 14:22 ` Eric Schulte
2012-03-19 14:41   ` Rainer M Krug
2012-03-19 14:52     ` Eric Schulte
2012-03-31  5:50       ` Torsten Wagner
2012-03-31  7:21         ` Nick Dokos
2012-04-01 16:34           ` Bernt Hansen
2012-04-01 20:26             ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-31  8:27         ` Bastien
2012-03-31 10:33           ` Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2012-03-19 15:03     ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2012-03-27 23:07     ` Bastien
2012-04-05  9:08       ` layout org-babel menu WAS: " Rainer M Krug
2012-04-05 12:44         ` Eric Schulte
2012-04-06  1:51           ` Torsten Wagner
2012-04-06  6:34             ` Rainer M Krug
2012-04-06  6:48               ` Thorsten
2012-04-06  6:58                 ` Rainer M Krug
2012-04-06  7:18                 ` Bastien
2012-04-06  9:29                   ` Thorsten
2012-04-06 15:40             ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2012-04-06 21:51             ` Eric Schulte
2012-04-08 21:19               ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-04-11  1:40                 ` Eric Schulte
2012-04-11  7:26                   ` Rainer M Krug
2012-04-11 13:59                     ` Eric Schulte
2012-04-11 20:12                       ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-04-13 12:45                         ` Eric Schulte
2012-04-13 19:37                           ` [bug?] Re: layout " Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2012-04-14 13:35                             ` Eric Schulte
2012-04-14 16:21                               ` Nick Dokos
2012-04-10  8:05               ` layout org-babel menu WAS: About " Rainer M Krug
2012-04-10 20:35                 ` Bastien
2012-04-11  7:10                   ` Rainer M Krug
2012-04-11  7:24                     ` Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2012-04-11  8:10                       ` Bastien
2012-04-11  8:11                     ` Bastien
2012-04-11  8:13                       ` Rainer M Krug
2012-04-11 13:51                         ` Eric Schulte
2012-04-11 13:43                       ` Eric Schulte

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