From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Subject: Re: Fixing footnote HTML Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 00:04:27 -1000 Message-ID: References: <871ubngb6e.fsf@gmail.com> <87li9vygs3.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49177) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UEd7n-0001vJ-4Y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:05:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UEd7k-0006bC-Pd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:05:03 -0400 Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com ([67.222.38.55]:45572) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UEd7k-0006ao-Gu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:05:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87li9vygs3.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:48:04 +0530") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Jambunathan K writes: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> On 3/9/13, Jambunathan K wrote: >>> I am sure Samuel will remind us infinitely if we forget about it. >> >>> Unless you say why it is confusing, I would count the above statement as >>> just mis-information and not a fact that other parties could agree with. >> >> You promised to leave: >> >> On 2/12/13, Jambunathan K wrote: >>> I let go of my commit access sometime ago. Now, I am leaving this >>> forum. >> >> Bastien asked you to ban yourself. > > Samuel, > > I asked him to remove ox-html.el and he indicated how he wanted to > proceed ahead. He wants ox-html.el in the tree and not GNU ELPA. The code in ox-html belongs to the Org community and to everyone who wants to use Org mode. Your request to Bastien implies a right of property, which doesn't exist. Because you have no property claim, Bastien's wishes don't involve you, they involve the Org community and its potential use of ox-html.el. > As one who re-wrote ox-html.el I have every moral authority to accept or > reject proposals or handle it the way I see fit. Bastien has the keys. > Hehas commit rights, which I don't have. What is the foundation of your "moral authority", except some non-existent property right? You have no property right to this code. On the other hand, we have the right not to be excluded from its use and enjoyment. The FSF papers are clear about this. This is how we function as a community. Please understand that we've placed our trust in Bastien and are confident that he will do right by us. He is clearly looking after our best interests by keeping ox-html in the tree. > Sorry. The list has to learn to deal with me, even if that amounts to > throwing the wares I have written out the window. We are not fools and won't throw out "your" code until it suits us. It works well and we intend to use and enjoy it for as long as it is useful and enjoyable. I hope you know that I admire your work and think you are a valuable member of our community. But, like the rest of us, you have to deal with the Org community, because it is the Org mode community, ever changing, that will shepherd the code you, many others, and (to a much lesser extent) I wrote. If we work well together on this magnificent idea, Org mode might outlive us all. Peace, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com