From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id AF2YLQfEYV8uCgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:51:35 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id MHfgJwfEYV+zdQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:51:35 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A62E9940142 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37942 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kISE0-0004sQ-TG for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 03:51:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kISDf-0004sJ-50 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 03:51:11 -0400 Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([89.238.71.130]:42056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kISDc-0001LF-Sq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 03:51:10 -0400 Received: from bohne (p200300cd6736d3007859ba0db1e6cdbd.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:cd:6736:d300:7859:ba0d:b1e6:cdbd]) by basilikum.nobis-admin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1631C6D81793 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:51:06 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=snobis.de; s=default; t=1600242666; bh=sISL4BOIffnI3ZlGkVRXl44YdaEvIhBrtHnfag2xW/s=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=VfQRsajUX57FYgaP2QkcF8EoVufwzOnL8sMb3GPKETq35PurL75qvPLBbifeU/aif VrjbQqnrVsP5EJAMEDbVdcDMh04Bz3+nNg3Ervvuq8RVkWOwNixDgAKu0hvutd3jpU 1qQ88Beua6zqIVYnoxLnfjfAo/P6IIq/HbLa5MSg= From: Stefan Nobis To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: "text mode" org mode References: <878sdbw7h6.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <875z8fumnw.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87a6xq6cgw.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Mail-Followup-To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:51:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87a6xq6cgw.fsf@ebih.ebihd> (Emanuel Berg via's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2020 21:56:15 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.238.71.130; envelope-from=stefan-ml@snobis.de; helo=basilikum.nobis-admin.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/16 02:15:33 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=snobis.de header.s=default header.b=VfQRsajU; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=snobis.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: P8JtgwUrnmwN Emanuel Berg via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > Thanks, I wonder tho if all this > (setq org-descriptive-links nil) > (setq org-hide-emphasis-markers nil) > (setq org-startup-folded 'showeverything) > is implied, with `visual-mode'? Beware: =visible-mode= not "visual"! As far as I understand the internal of Org an Emacs, some of the visual features of Org are implemented with overlays, some are implemented with text properties. Disabling visible-mode just makes invisible text visible - but I do not fully understand whether this affects really all kinds of "invisibility" or just some. So I for myself prefer to say Org explicitly what I want instead of trying to take advantage of an indirect effect that may disturb Orgs internal state (or not; I just do not understand enough of Org and Emacs internals to really judge this). -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.