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From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)
To: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
Cc: Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANN] ASCII back-end for new export engine
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:13:24 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ehulau9n.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81obtpnkkn.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:34:24 +0530")

Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:

> Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>>>> A way to set individual headings as numbered or unnumbered would be
>>>>> deluxe.  Perhaps this is possible, but I haven't found it?
>>>>
>>>> It would require to modify Org's syntax (how to tell which headline has
>>>> to be numbered and which has not?). It is not possible at the moment.
>>>
>>> Let us not support this.
>>
>> I tend to agree here.
>
> I wonder whether there is a one-to-one correspondence between how the
> headline appears in regular text and how it appears in TOC. If it
> appears numbered in regular text should it appear numbered in TOC?

The LaTeX classes with which I'm familiar all ensure that the TOC
entry matches the in-text heading wrt numbered/unnumbered.  I think this
is a principle of document design (which might of course be subverted
for some purpose).  

>
> TOC in ODT exporter is specified by associating an outline level
> attribute with the headings. The headlines are then collected up to
> certain level (with each level being associated with a given "format").
>
> The above model for TOC generation, as LibreOffice sees it, is
> incompatible with associating headlines as numbered or unnumbered in
> arbitrary manner. I think headline numbering has to be evaluated in
> conjunction with TOC (which is but a index entry).

Is it the case that ODT lacks the distinction made by LaTeX between,
say, \section and \section*?  The former is numbered if its depth <=
secnumdepth and unnumbered otherwise.  It appears in the TOC if its
depth is <= tocdepth, regardless of whether or not it is numbered.  The
numbering of depths is determined by the class, because the number and
kinds of sections vary by document class.  Numbering isn't something the
user thinks about--it is set by the sectioning command, according to the
class file.

The \section* form is a special case.  It produces an unnumbered heading
that does not appear in the TOC. 

hth,
Tom

-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-27 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-21 20:14 [ANN] ASCII back-end for new export engine Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-21 20:33 ` Samuel Wales
2012-01-21 20:36   ` Samuel Wales
2012-01-21 23:04   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-22  1:28     ` Samuel Wales
2012-01-22  9:43       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-22 16:36         ` Samuel Wales
2012-01-28 10:28           ` Samuel Wales
2012-01-28 13:55             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-28 20:50               ` Samuel Wales
2012-01-28 21:32                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-28 22:15                   ` Samuel Wales
2012-01-28 23:58                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-22 14:43 ` Martyn Jago
2012-01-22 15:45   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-22 16:43     ` Martyn Jago
2012-01-23 20:05     ` Eric Schulte
2012-01-23 20:49       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-22 16:35 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-22 17:10   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-23  5:58     ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-25 17:41       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-26  6:49         ` Tweaking the export (was: Re: [ANN] ASCII back-end for new export engine) Christian Wittern
2012-01-27 13:06           ` Tweaking the export Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-27 13:47             ` Jambunathan K
2012-01-27 14:03               ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-01-28  2:33                 ` Christian Wittern
2012-01-28  2:21               ` Christian Wittern
2012-01-28  4:03                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2012-01-29  9:07                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-04  6:21                   ` Christian Wittern
2012-02-17 20:06                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-26  8:44         ` [ANN] ASCII back-end for new export engine Eric S Fraga
2012-01-26 13:59         ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-26 15:28           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-26 17:32             ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-26 18:31               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-26 19:00                 ` Achim Gratz
2012-01-27 12:58                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-27 13:06                     ` Rick Frankel
2012-01-27 13:56                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-27 16:31                         ` Achim Gratz
2012-02-01  6:44                         ` Achim Gratz
2012-01-26 20:10                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-01  8:36                 ` Jambunathan K
2012-01-27  8:10             ` Jambunathan K
2012-01-27 13:59               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-27 15:50                 ` Bastien
2012-01-27 16:29                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-27 17:04                 ` Jambunathan K
2012-01-27 18:13                   ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2012-01-27 18:31                     ` Jambunathan K
2012-01-27 19:21                       ` Achim Gratz
2012-01-27 19:48                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-27 20:10                           ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-27 20:11                       ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-23 21:33     ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-22 19:21 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-22 20:50   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-23  6:14     ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-23  7:03       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-23 15:53         ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-23 18:18           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-23 21:27             ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-01-23 12:20     ` Andreas Leha
2012-01-27 17:00 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-03 22:57   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-04 16:42     ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-05  2:19 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-05  2:58 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-05 14:09   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-06  1:34 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-06 14:29   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-06 16:39     ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-06 17:05       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-06 18:46         ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-07  7:27           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-07  8:57             ` Document date and last updated date Sebastien Vauban
2012-02-07 17:45               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-07 22:29                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-02-07  6:22         ` [ANN] ASCII back-end for new export engine Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-07  7:07           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-07  9:00             ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-02-07 17:49               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-08  7:11                 ` Jambunathan K
2012-02-07 15:45             ` Thomas S. Dye

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