From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark Edgington Subject: Re: proposal to have ignoreheading tags/properties Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 04:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <87egyt354z.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WvImb-00073U-9h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:08:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WvImV-0004Gj-4e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:08:05 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58033) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WvImU-0004GZ-Tl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:07:59 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WvImS-0005B4-Lu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:07:56 +0200 Received: from c-71-238-75-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net ([71.238.75.211]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:07:56 +0200 Received: from edgimar by c-71-238-75-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:07:56 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Eric Abrahamsen ericabrahamsen.net> writes: > > It looks like a groundswell for remove-andor-promote tags for headlines, > but for the sake of argument let me propose the use of blocks. It seems > to me that something like a "generic block" (a block that does nothing > but delete its begin/end delimiters on export) fits the use-case better: > Consider the following: * Test #+begin_block abc * test2 #+begin_block def * test3 ** test4 #+end_block ** test5 #+end_block Some remarks on this, and on blocks vs. headlines: - For me, the above example ends up being indented very poorly with org-indent-mode active. Also folding the nested headlines swallows up the end-block lines. - I find that it's difficult to identify what belongs to what block, and the need to have both start and end lines to delineate the blocks is a bit more noisy and can be a pain to work with (what if I want to remove the "abc frame" -- I will need not only to delete the begin line, but also to locate where the corresponding end line is, and delete it as well). - creating a block (manually, at least) requires more effort than creating a headline (= more RSI). - It also may be convenient at times to be able to remove the :promote:, etc. tags in order to have the exporter include the grouping as part of the exported document's structure. - Likewise, what if I want to add a :noexport: tag so that all of the content is ignored -- easy with headlines, more work to do the same thing with a block.