Broken LaTeX export

Broken LaTeX export

[SW]

I'm working on a large document in org-mode which I export to LaTeX. At present,
the outline/structure of the document has been created, but not much of the
content. The LaTeX export has strange pagination, a blank page and text that
runs off the page. Where can I paste/post this example?

Re: Broken LaTeX export

[Nick Dokos]

SW <sabrewolfy@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm working on a large document in org-mode which I export to LaTeX. At present,
> the outline/structure of the document has been created, but not much of the
> content. The LaTeX export has strange pagination, a blank page and text that
> runs off the page. Where can I paste/post this example?
> 
> 

If you don't mind making it public, I'd say go ahead and post the org
file (and any relevant customizations) here.

Nick

Re: Broken LaTeX export

[SW]

Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos <at> hp.com> writes:
 
> If you don't mind making it public, I'd say go ahead and post the org
> file (and any relevant customizations) here.

"M-x replace-regex <RET> \w+ <RET> Text <RET>"

I replaced all words with "Text". Here is the document outline. The breakage
happens from page 3 onwards. I export to LaTeX from org-mode 7.8.06 in Emacs
23.2.1 and then compile to PDF with pdflatex twice.

=========================================================
=START=============================================START=

#+OPTIONS: toc:nil

* Text 1: Text
** Text
** Text
*** Text
*** Text text text TEXT text
**** Text text
**** Text text
**** Text Text
***** Text text TEXT text
***** Text text text TEXT text text Text
***** Text text text text text
**** Text text
**** Text text
**** TEXT
*** Text
*** Text
** TEXT text / text text text text
*** TEXT text text / text text / TEXT
**** Text text
**** Text text
***** Text
***** Text
***** Text
**** Text text
**** TEXT text
** Text text text text
*** Text, text text text text text
*** Text text: Text
**** Text text text text text
**** text text text text
**** Text text
**** Text text, text text text
** Text: text Text text
*** Text text
*** TEXT text
**** Text text text text text Text
***** Text TEXT text text text
***** Text TEXT text text text
***** Text TEXT
**** Text text
**** Text text text
**** Text
**** Text / text text text text
** TEXT text / text text
*** TEXT/TEXT
*** TEXT
*** TEXT
*** TEXT
*** TEXT
** TEXT/TEXT text-text
*** Text / text
*** Text
*** Text text text text text text
*** Text text text
*** Text-Text Text
*** Text text
* Text text: Text text Text / Text
** Text, Text Text, Text text Text
*** Text
*** Text Text
*** Text
*** Text
** Text Text
*** Text Text
*** Text Text
*** Text
*** Text Text
*** Text Text
*** Text text text Text
*** Text-Text Text
** Text Text
*** Text text Text
*** Text text Text Text
*** TEXT Text
*** Text Text Text
*** Text Text Text Text
*** Text
*** Text
*** Text Text Text
*** Text
*** Text
*** Text text Text
** Text Text
*** Text / Text
*** Text
* Text text: Text
** Text
*** Text / Text
**** Text text text-text
**** Text Text
**** Text text text
**** Text text
*** Text
*** Text, text text
*** Text text text text
*** Text Text
*** Text Text Text
*** Text
*** TEXT
*** TEXT/Text text
* Text text: Text text: Text
* Text text: Text text: Text
* Text text: Text text: Text Text Text
* Text text: Text text: Text Text Text
* Text text: Text
* Text text: Text Text
** Text text
*** Text
** Text text Text
* Text text: Text text Text
* Text text: Text

=END=================================================END=
=========================================================

Re: Broken LaTeX export

[Nick Dokos]

SW <sabrewolfy@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos <at> hp.com> writes:
>  
> > If you don't mind making it public, I'd say go ahead and post the org
> > file (and any relevant customizations) here.
> 
> "M-x replace-regex <RET> \w+ <RET> Text <RET>"
> 
> I replaced all words with "Text". Here is the document outline. The breakage
> happens from page 3 onwards. I export to LaTeX from org-mode 7.8.06 in Emacs
> 23.2.1 and then compile to PDF with pdflatex twice.
> 
> =========================================================
> =START=============================================START=
> 
> ....
> 
> =END=================================================END=
> =========================================================
> 
> 

Interesting: it seems to be a latex bug of some sort, but I haven't had
time to play with it too much yet. I'm trying things like modifying the
tex file slightly and seeing if the empty page(s)/overfull page(s)
persist.  So far, it seems that all the packages that org includes are
innocent: I took them all out and the strangeness persists.

Nick

Re: Broken LaTeX export

[SW]

Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos <at> hp.com> writes:

> Interesting: it seems to be a latex bug of some sort, but I haven't had
> time to play with it too much yet. I'm trying things like modifying the
> tex file slightly and seeing if the empty page(s)/overfull page(s)
> persist.  So far, it seems that all the packages that org includes are
> innocent: I took them all out and the strangeness persists.

Thanks for the details. I noticed the overfull warnings from pdflatex.
Smaller/simpler test cases I tried exported to LaTeX perfectly.

FWIW:

$ pdflatex --version
pdfTeX 3.1415926-1.40.10-2.2 (TeX Live 2009/Debian)
kpathsea version 5.0.0
<snip>
Compiled with libpng 1.2.44; using libpng 1.2.44
Compiled with zlib 1.2.3.4; using zlib 1.2.3.4
Compiled with poppler version 0.12.4

Re: Broken LaTeX export

[Achim Gratz]

SW writes:
> Thanks for the details. I noticed the overfull warnings from pdflatex.
> Smaller/simpler test cases I tried exported to LaTeX perfectly.

LaTeX tries very hard not to break pages around headings.  It expects
you to tell it when it is OK to not obey that rule, but you never did.
The correct way of dealing with a file that consists only of headings is
to write your own style file and explicitly allow page breaks in the
sectioning commands (usually before the heading).  While you're doing
that you can also chose a more suitable formatting.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: Broken LaTeX export

[SW]

Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos <at> hp.com> writes:

> Interesting: it seems to be a latex bug of some sort, but I haven't had
> time to play with it too much yet. I'm trying things like modifying the
> tex file slightly and seeing if the empty page(s)/overfull page(s)
> persist.  So far, it seems that all the packages that org includes are
> innocent: I took them all out and the strangeness persists.

I shortened the document by moving "\end{document}" around to try to find the
problem. In some cases, the document rendered correctly. I think this is related
to having to many "section" type headings in LaTeX with no content.

To test this, I added:

\usepackage[english]{babel}
\usepackage{blindtext}

And then used "M-x replace-string" to replace "\subs" with "\blindtext^q^j\subs"
to enter a lots of text into the document. It now renders correctly, with the
end of the document back to where it should be.

However, this is a work-around, not a solution, as part of the appeal of
org-mode and the LaTeX export is to be able to work with and generate outlines
and structures of documents first, before adding all the content.

Re: Broken LaTeX export

[Eric S Fraga]

SW <sabrewolfy@gmail.com> writes:

> Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos <at> hp.com> writes:
>
>> Interesting: it seems to be a latex bug of some sort, but I haven't had
>> time to play with it too much yet. I'm trying things like modifying the
>> tex file slightly and seeing if the empty page(s)/overfull page(s)
>> persist.  So far, it seems that all the packages that org includes are
>> innocent: I took them all out and the strangeness persists.

[...]

> However, this is a work-around, not a solution, as part of the appeal of
> org-mode and the LaTeX export is to be able to work with and generate outlines
> and structures of documents first, before adding all the content.

A simple solution which keeps your interest in the outline structure at
this stage of the writing is to add the line

#+options: H:3

to the document (remembering to refresh org by typing C-c C-c on this
line).  This converts all 4th level headings and lower to lists on
export without you having to change the document content at all.

For your test document, this works just fine.

Once you have added enough text, you can change the 3 to 5 and your
document should export just fine.

HTH,
eric

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Re: Broken LaTeX export

[SW]

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga <at> ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> A simple solution which keeps your interest in the outline structure at
> this stage of the writing is to add the line
> 
> #+options: H:3

...

Thanks. That's a useful suggestion.

Re: Broken LaTeX export

[SW]

Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos <at> hp.com> writes:

> Interesting: it seems to be a latex bug of some sort, but I haven't had
> time to play with it too much yet. I'm trying things like modifying the
> tex file slightly and seeing if the empty page(s)/overfull page(s)
> persist.  So far, it seems that all the packages that org includes are
> innocent: I took them all out and the strangeness persists.

Posted as a question here:

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/57857/overfull-box-and-broken-pagination

with two answers so far, both of them useful I think.