From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Robert Goldman Subject: Re: Subversion for backups? Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <87ab1nd1ns.wl%ks@mocker.org> <4A952F65.3070005@online.de> <87fxber8zb.wl%ks@mocker.org> <87iqgaa1qi.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mgile-0006DN-S2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:28:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mgila-0005yQ-6h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:28:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47362 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mgila-0005yE-1g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:28:06 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:38959) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MgilZ-0000ga-HN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:28:05 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MgilX-0001r4-1Q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:28:03 +0200 Received: from 74-44-13-148.br1.aurr.mn.frontiernet.net ([74.44.13.148]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:28:03 +0200 Received: from rpgoldman by 74-44-13-148.br1.aurr.mn.frontiernet.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:28:03 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Matt Lundin imapmail.org> writes: > > Kyle Sexton mocker.org> writes: > > > At Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:49:41 +0200, > > Rainer Stengele online.de> wrote: > >> > >> I use subversion to backup and track my org files. > >> I have a server in my office running the subversion server. > >> > > This is a bit off-topic, but I found the separation of repository and > working files in SVN a bit cumbersome after a while. You can't view your > history when you aren't connected to the remote repository, your history > is in only one place, you have duplicate files in the .svn directories, > etc. > > For this reason I highly recommend a distributed version control system > such as git, bzr, etc.. You can start locally quite easily ("git init", > "git add .", "git commit -a") and then decide to create a remote > repository whenever you'd like. > > In fact, there's a nice tutorial on this: > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-vcs.php > > FWIW, my feelings are the exact opposite of Matt's --- I find the added complexity of having multiple repositories to manage and the general added complexity of git quite unwelcome. If you are trying to keep multiple machines in sync, I find that a centralized repository scheme is far simpler: all you need to do is manage the relationship between your working copies and the repository, and that relationship is a very simple one. If you have a distributed revision control system and multiple different repositories, you must manage the relationship between the different repositories and the relationship between those repositories and your working copies. Because of the peer-to-peer aspect, this is a complex quadratic mesh of relationships to manage, instead of the simple linear relationship you have with a centralized repository. I would say that if (1) you generally are connected to the internet, with only minor intervals offline and (2) have access to a hosted svn repository (so you don't manage it yourself, and so that you can use the simple https protocol instead of fussing with ssh tunneling), then you are likely to find svn much simpler. I am fortunate that both of these hold for me. That said, if you are already a git wizard, this won't apply... Best, r