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From: Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com>
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
	Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com>,
	dmg@uvic.ca
Subject: Re: firefox urls
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:51:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lafxscudzu.fsf@richardriley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19851.1211316397@alphaville.zko.hp.com> (Nick Dokos's message of "Tue, 20 May 2008 16:46:37 -0400")

Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:

> Daniel M German <dmg@uvic.ca> wrote:
>
>>  >> 
>>  >> Hi Alan,
>>  >> 
>>  >> Did you download the file as I indicated in my previous message? It has
>>  >> detailed instructions on how to get all the pieces working.
>>  >> 
>>  >> --dmg
>> 
>>  Richard> I followed the instructions but I cant get it working.
>> 
>>  Richard> Are the instructions for adding 2 bookmarklets lacking since
>>  Richard> it only really describes remember protocol? (Step 2).
>> 
>>  Richard> Step 3 only mentioned the remember handler. Should there also be an
>>  Richard> annotate handler?
>> 
>> 
>> Start by doing remember first. Are you able to get the remember command
>> line script (what I call the handler) working? Try it from the command
>> line.
>> 
>> I suspect your javascript bookmarklet is not passing the info of the
>> page correctly. I would double check that first.
>> 
>> --dmg
>> 
>> 
>>  Richard> I dont think I did anything too silly and wonder if anyone else managed
>>  Richard> to install this properly? Currently when I click on the remember
>>  Richard> bookmarklet the pane empties and emacs prompts me for a template type
>>  Richard> but then does not insert the link. It just inserts "about:blank" as the
>>  Richard> link.
>> 
>
> I think part of the problem is that the comments are inconsistent:
>
> Step 1 (and Daniel, in the mail above) talks about the "remember"
> script, while the script itself and Step 3 talk about the
> "org-annotation-helper" script.
>
> Here is an attempt at clarification: it's mostly minor edits but there
> are enough of them that I thought I'd send out the whole thing rather
> than a patch. It is still very much oriented towards Linux.
>
> However, I have problems with how the remember template works, so the
> description below is fuzzy, perhaps incomplete, perhaps wrong.

I still get prompted for a template type. Is there no way for the
bookmark code to auto select a "Bookmarks" template type?

>
> With this caveat, Richard, can you try these steps out and see if they
> work/make sense? If this is deemed OK, then maybe it can replace the
> comment section in org-annotation-helper.el, after the requisite additions/
> corrections/deletions are made.
>
> Regards,
> Nick
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Debugging notes - skip ahead if not interested]
>
> Assuming I have defined a remember template like this:
>
>            (?w "* %u %c \n\n%i" "~/lib/org/bookmarks.org" "Web links")
>
> when bzg/org-annotation-helper calls org-remember with argument ?w, I
> expect this template to pop up in a *Remember* buffer. Instead, I get
> asked which template I want to use (I have three more templates in
> org-remember-templates). When I say "w" and force the choice, the
> contents of the buffer are not what I expect: I get the time stamp from
> %u, and the link from %c, but *not* the selection from %i. I uncommented
> the echo in the script and the browser is passing the selection to the
> script correctly. I also single-stepped through
> bzg/org-annotation-helper, which sets the :region property of the link
> to the selection like so:
>
> 	(org-store-link-props :type type
> 			      :link url
> 			      :region region
> 			      :description title)
>
> but somehow that seems to get dropped on the floor afterwards. Maybe a
> bug in org-remember? I 'm under the (possibly erroneous?) impression
> that we should be going through the if-true path of the following code
> in org-remember (as shown by the arrow):
>
>     ...
>     ;; `org-select-remember-template'
>     (setq org-select-template-temp-major-mode major-mode)
>     (setq org-select-template-original-buffer (current-buffer))
>     (if (eq org-finish-function 'org-remember-finalize)
> ?--->	(progn
> 	  (when (< (length org-remember-templates) 2)
> 	    (error "No other template available"))
> 	  (erase-buffer)
> 	  (let ((annotation (plist-get org-store-link-plist :annotation))
> 		(initial (plist-get org-store-link-plist :initial)))
> 	    (org-remember-apply-template))
> 	  (message "Press C-c C-c to remember data"))
>       (if (org-region-active-p)
> 	  (org-do-remember (buffer-substring (point) (mark)))
> 	(org-do-remember))))))
>
> but org-finish-function is nil in this case, so we fall through to the
> org-do-remember at the end.
>
> [end of debugging notes]
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ;; We want to be able to pass a URL and document title directly from a
> ;; web browser to Emacs.
> ;;
> ;; We define a remember:// url handler in the browser and use a shell
> ;; script to handle the protocol.  This script passes the information
> ;; to a running Emacs process (using emacsclient/gnuclient).  We use 
> ;; bookmarklets to create the remember:// urls dynamically.
> ;;
> ;; The protocol types currently recognized are:
> ;; 
> ;; remember://     start `remember' with the url and title filled in
> ;; annotation://   similar to `planner-annotation-as-kill' (org?)
> ;;
> ;; The urls used internally will have the following form:
> ;;
> ;;   remember://<the web page url>::remember::<the title>::remember::<selection>
> ;;
> ;; The annotation:// url is similar but there is no <selection> associated
> ;; with it.
> ;;
> ;; The web page url and the  title will be url-hex-encoded. 
> ;;
> ;;
> ;; The bookmarklets:
> ;;
> ;;----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ;; javascript:location.href='remember://' + location.href + \ 
> ;;   '::remember::' + escape(document.title) + '::remember::' + escape(window.getSelection())
> ;;----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ;; javascript:location.href='annotation://' + location.href + '::remember::' +\
> ;;     escape(document.title) ;; 
> ;;----------------------------------------------------------------------

Two of them - only one mentioned below.

There is still no comment as to what "annotate" actually means. Could I
also suggest for the non "codey" types that the code is kept on a single
like to avoid the need to paste into a seperate buffer and rejoin the
code before pasting it into the single line firefox properties dialog.


> ;;
> ;;
> ;; The handler:
> ;;
> ;;----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ;; #!/bin/sh
> ;; # org-annotation-helper -- pass a remember-url to emacs
> ;; #
> ;; # Author: Geert Kloosterman <g.j.kloosterman@gmail.com>
> ;; # Date: Sat Nov 19 22:33:18 2005
> ;; 
> ;; if [ -z "$1" ]; then
> ;;     echo "$0: Error: no arguments given!" 1>&2
> ;;     exit 1
> ;; fi
> ;; 
> ;; # To test uncomment following line
> ;; #echo $1 >> /tmp/remember.out
> ;; 
> ;; emacsclient --eval "(progn (bzg/org-annotation-helper \"$1\" )
> nil)"

Works ok from command line.

> ;;----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ;; 
> ;;
> ;; To install:
> ;; 
> ;; Step 0: Install this module.
> ;;
> ;;  * Install this file and require it in your .emacs (or wherever you
> ;;    want to do it)
> ;;
> ;;    (require 'org-annotation-helper)
> ;;
> ;;
> ;; Step 1: Install the org-annotation-helper shell script.
> ;; 
> ;;  * Save the handler as a script, and make sure it is executable. In
> ;;    the following, we assume that it has been saved under the name
> ;;    "org-annotation-helper" in some directory in your $PATH.
> ;;
> ;;  * Try it: Make sure emacs is running and you have started its server
> ;;    mode (server-start).  Run this command from the command line:
> ;;
> ;;       org-annotation-helper 'remember://http%3A//orgmode.org/::remember::Org-Mode%20Homepage::remember::Notes'
> ;;
> ;;    Emacs should now show a remember window. If you have set up a
> ;;    remember template for this case, e.g. a template similar to the
> ;;    one in Step 4 below, the remember window will show a link to the
> ;;    orgmode.org site with the name "Org-Mode Homepage", with "Notes"
> ;;    added as initial content (XXX - this doesn't work?). Otherwise,
> ;;    you can insert the link with org-insert-link (commonly bound to
> ;;    C-c C-l).
> ;;
> ;;
> ;; Step 2: add two bookmarklets to the browser.

Only one described, maybe better to describe both.

> ;;
> ;; For Firefox:
> ;;
> ;;  * Right click on the bookmarks area of Firefox. 
> ;;  * Select "New Bookmark".
> ;;  * In the Location field, fill the javascript code above (the bookmarklet).
> ;;  * Make sure "Load this bookmark in the sidebar" is deselected.
> ;;
> ;;  Try it. You should have now a url that starts with "remember://"
> ;;  and your browser will not know what do to with it.

"The bookmark now references a url type of remember. We now
tell the browser what to do with it:"

> ;;
> ;;
> ;; Step 3: Add the handler for the "remember://" URI.
> ;;
> ;; For Firefox:
> ;;
> ;; To add a protocol handler (eg: remember://) in Firefox, take the
> ;; following steps:
> ;;
> ;;  * Type in "about:config" in the location bar.
> ;;  * Right click and from the drop-down menu, select New --> String.
> ;;  * The Preference Name should be "network.protocol-handler.app.remember".
> ;;  * The Value should be the name of the executable shell script (see
> ;;    Step 1 above, where we called it "org-annotation-helper"). At
> ;;    least under Linux, this does not need to be the full path to the
> ;;    executable.
> ;;
> ;; See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol for more details.
> ;;
> ;; For Opera:
> ;;
> ;; Add the protocol in the Preferences->Advanced->Programs
> ;; dialog.
> ;;
> ;; 
> ;; Step 4: Configure a template.
> ;;
> ;; I personally  use the following template for this mode
> ;;
> ;;      (?w "* %u %c \n\n%i" "~/working/trunk/org/bookmarks.org" "Web links")
> ;;
> ;; %c will be replaced with the hyperlink to the page, displaying the
> ;;     title of the page.
> ;; %i will be replaced with the selected text from the browser.
> ;;
> ;; By default the new remember notes are placed in the bookmarks.org
> ;; file under the "Web links" section, but it can be easily overriden
> ;; with C-u C-c C-c.
> ;;
> ;; Step 5:
> ;;    Enjoy!

Unfortunately when running from iceweasel under Debian I am sill being
prompted for a template and then I'm still getting about:blank as the
link inserted into the title.

It might be useful to add that adding location of org-annotation-helper
(is this a misnomer as I am a tad confused as to remember and annotate
here) to .gnomerc is important for desktop apps. I guess it can also be
added to an emacs shell path?

      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-21 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-12 15:22 firefox urls Richard G Riley
2008-05-12 15:33 ` John Rakestraw
2008-05-14  4:12   ` Daniel M German
2008-05-14  4:30     ` Carsten Dominik
2008-05-14 16:57     ` John Rakestraw
     [not found]     ` <871w44wlgz.fsf@uvic.ca>
2008-05-18  1:27       ` Alan E. Davis
2008-05-18  5:43         ` Daniel M German
2008-05-20 17:03           ` Richard G Riley
2008-05-20 17:20             ` Daniel M German
2008-05-20 20:46               ` Nick Dokos
2008-05-20 21:49                 ` Daniel M German
2008-05-21  1:49                 ` John Rakestraw
2008-05-21  5:28                   ` Carsten Dominik
2008-05-21 11:06                     ` Richard G Riley
2008-05-21 15:44                       ` John Rakestraw
2008-05-21 16:10                         ` Nick Dokos
2008-05-23 23:28                           ` Daniel M German
     [not found]                             ` <7bef1f890805232005s4755106eg2c928029e6db1767@mail.gmail.com>
2008-05-24  3:08                               ` Fwd: " Alan E. Davis
2008-05-24  3:14                             ` Alan E. Davis
2008-05-24  3:20                               ` Alan E. Davis
     [not found]                               ` <87r6bsmle5.fsf@uvic.ca>
2008-05-24  5:18                                 ` Alan E. Davis
2008-05-21 14:55                     ` John Rakestraw
2008-05-21 15:05                     ` Daniel M German
2008-05-21 14:58                   ` Nick Dokos
2008-05-21 10:51                 ` Richard G Riley [this message]

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