From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Richard Riley Subject: Re: org-mode tutorial questionaire Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:47:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87bpeesu45.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NuBD3-0000Xc-Q9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:00:21 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41603 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NuBD2-0000WF-3e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:00:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuBD0-00078d-L9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:00:19 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:49855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuBD0-00078E-6v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:00:18 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuBCx-0005fW-Q8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:00:15 +0100 Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:00:15 +0100 Received: from rileyrgdev by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:00:15 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Matt Lundin writes: > Hi Alex, > > Alexander Poslavsky writes: > >> There is a new tutorial on worg: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/ >> org4beginners.php. The idea is to write a tutorial for somebody who is >> new to org-mode. > ... >> For everybody: >> -What kind of tutorial would be the most useful? >> -What in your experience people find confusing? > > Thanks for taking the time to put this on Worg. I wish I had had such a > concise summary of the various flavors of emacs on different platforms > when I started exploring org-mode. > > I was wondering if you could elaborate on the following. Are you > suggesting that new users should never use M-x customize? As a general comment on this : I used to hand code all my customisations. And ran into terrible problems somewhere along the line. Now anything that has a customise interface, I use that interface and have had no such problems anymore. The downside of course is that your customisations are not grouped "logically" with comments -but, for me anyway, using the customisation interface lends itself to much more trustworthy code. > > ,---- > | The biggest pain, when you just begin with Emacs, is the configuration. > | There is not really a menu for it (you might later hear there is, but > | they are lying, that menu is really there to trap innocent people), you > | need to edit a text-file. > `---- > > A few comments: > > 1. Some of the "step-by-step" instructions might be a bit easier to > follow in list format (rather than paragraphs). > > 2. If I were reading the tutorial for the first time, I might conclude > that I had to place "#-*- mode: org -*-" at the top of all my org > files, even after configuring auto-mode-alist. > > 3. Why C-x b 2.org --> M-x org-mode --> C-x C-s as the recommended > workflow? Once the configuration file is set up, C-x C-f 2.org will > bring one right into org-mode. > > Thanks again for all the work you've put into this. > > Best, > Matt > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X & vCards / \