From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: General advice beyond Org Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 18:31:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7dc580d0ea76c21328dc586ffadb5499@openmail.cc> <441378060.337754.1526627562985@webmail.appsuite.proximus.be> <3c1619129a29ec2327609496f73fb57a@openmail.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJnvE-00089U-0I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2018 18:32:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJnvA-0007zS-T7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2018 18:32:24 -0400 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=56557 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJnvA-0007yu-LX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2018 18:32:20 -0400 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fJnt0-0007sy-M2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2018 00:30:06 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > It is only when we have to collaborate directly that the issue > arises. I guess that it's a similar situation as you are having > (programming? she does not care, I can do whatever I want; publication > abstract? she wants a DOCX or DOC). Collaborating on an article does require a fairly "deep" integration of various people's tools, so some compromise often need to be made. If she's used to using Word to edit documents, then it's likely going to be difficult to convince her to use something else, at least during your tenure as student. What I do usually in those cases is the following: - I refuse to install proprietary software, so in the worst case I'll edit a .docx document with LibreOffice (I don't see why she'd object to that under the imperfect compatibility between LibreOffice and Word gets in the way). [ BTW, If imperfect compatibility between LibreOffice and Word gets in the way, you might try and look for some other version of Word than hers, and find other incompatibilities (the various Word versions also suffer from imperfect compatibility), so as to show her that the issue is not just due to your use of Free Software. ] - You can try and get her to install the ODT plugin for Word so she can open ODT documents as well as .docx in her Word program. I often make the effort to only send ODT documents, even when it's a modification of a document that was sent to me in .docx format (on the premise that I shouldn't be the only one to bear the brunt of the format war). - Depending on how many changes/annotations she contributes to the document, you might be able to keep your original in your favorite format (LaTeX, Org, you name it); convert it to ODT or .docx before sending it to her; and then integrating her changes/annotations by hand into your original document. Using Git with ODT/.docx documents is about as pleasant as pulling teeth in my experience, so there's no point trying to convince her to try it out as long as she sticks to such WYSIWYG thingies. Of course, the real problems start when she wants to use some *really* poorly supported format like Apple's Pages. Stefan