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So far, have let them choose > their own tools for all the tasks (implementation language, > documentation tools, etc.). Personally, I have been using org-mode for > what feels like forever. I was thinking that it would be nice to have > students use org-mode also for their project. I can see it provide so > many features that would benefit the projects: easy links for > e.g. traceability, tagging of requirements for categorizing, responsible > developer,..., of course todo lists, priorities, progress tracking, > rendering to web page, PDF,... > > Since these are students from a very technical background I would hope > they would be open to this. > > Anyway, does anyone have any experience related to this, maybe not > specifically related to teaching, but software engineering projects > (with documentation of domain, requirements, project approach, progress, > references, source code, testing, design, etc. etc. etc.)? > > Best regards, > > Marko I predict, given that you've already allowed them to 'choose their own tools', insisting on something as esoteric as org mode will meet much resistance (unless of course they've already chosen emacs as their one tool). If you do go down that path, insist also on exactly one (1) of the available export targets.