From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id UMSvCSai2l7TEQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 19:51:02 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id YCVrBSai2l4VSAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 19:51:02 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FE5494050A for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 19:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50334 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhIMl-00039m-AQ for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:50:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhILw-0002mq-FB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:50:08 -0400 Received: from devianza.investici.org ([198.167.222.108]:25159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhILu-0000xq-6B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:50:08 -0400 Received: from mx2.investici.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by devianza.investici.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92382E058B; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 19:50:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anche.no; s=stigmate; t=1591386600; bh=005XtoRrJL7spo+Tu9LWs+77aypzp/+0ccqYh4Kw9sY=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=LyPrf7Oe4nv3GjHEJIL164kajG3q3NYBprkuABYUAOGgKJzmzw8oWJ/Z106yTrQyH pcmxDu0Pcc9JDa6fs5R6tyvUnDMAHgl0vh15ObjZmIruPQ9xikwoLG/rfYWAa0+Zjf Lvy+KmlfgvJJxvuJ/T5VfYAZMXpbk/ARzpibK1kk= Received: from [198.167.222.108] (mx2.investici.org [198.167.222.108]) (Authenticated sender: mariotomo@inventati.org) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6840BE05A4; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Mario Frasca Subject: tables, positioning of `#+Plot:' lines Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 14:49:43 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.167.222.108; envelope-from=mario@anche.no; helo=devianza.investici.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/05 15:50:00 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=anche.no header.s=stigmate header.b=LyPrf7Oe; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.21 X-TUID: kh5uBIEkvMvU I was wondering about the position of the `#+plot:' lines.  we have a table, and if we want to have formulas, we put these in a `#+TBLFM:' line following the table.  the documentation of org-plot states that `#+PLOT:' lines are looked for: following, or preceding the table, but then only the "preceding" strategy is implemented.  I tried just out of curiosity, what happens if I put my `#+PLOT:' lines following the table but before the `#+TBLFM:' line.  in this case also the `#+TBLFM:' line is not found. I see a couple of problems with this approach and in the current implementation: - only one single `#+TBLFM:' line is recognized, it must follow the table, there cannot be any other meta information in between the table and the `#+TBLFM:' line. - other programs can't add meta information to the table, or must choose to stay after the `#+TBLFM:' line or before the `#+PLOT:' lines. - you have meta information at the two ends of the table, instead of all on the same side. I would like to implement the 'plot meta lines after the table', and some way to comment meta lines. any thoughts? my main doubt is that if we acknowledge meta lines at both ends, we end up with an unmanageable mess, where similar information can be very distant in the document.  I think it was a mistake to let PLOT directives be placed elsewhere than formulas, but I don't know if it's still worth changing this. best regards, MF