From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: counter-intuitive key bindings Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:57:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20070728125242.GC22472@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IJOnV-0008Eb-G7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:20:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IJOnT-0008E2-SV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:20:37 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJOnT-0008Dz-NH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:20:35 -0400 Received: from korteweg.uva.nl ([146.50.98.70]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IJOnT-00056h-4A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:20:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20070728125242.GC22472@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Adam Spiers Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Jul 28, 2007, at 14:52, Adam Spiers wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 12:17:06PM +0100, Leo wrote: >> (info "(org)Multiple sets in one file") >> | `C-S-' >> | `C-S-' >> | These keys jump from one TODO subset to the next. In the above >> | example, `C-S-' would jump from `TODO' or `DONE' to >> | `REPORT', and any of the words in the second row to `CANCELED'. >> >> These key bindings are to move from one set of the TODO items to >> another, which intuitively are a vertical motion. See this configure: >> >> | (setq org-todo-keywords >> | '((sequence "TODO" "|" "DONE") >> | (sequence "REPORT" "BUG" "KNOWNCAUSE" "|" "FIXED") >> | (sequence "|" "CANCELED"))) >> >> I would propose to change these key bindings to: >> >> C-S- > > Agreed, this is more logical, although the modified cursor key > bindings are always going to be contended. Personally I have a > "global" standard set of key bindings for outline navigation and > editing which applies across several modes: folding-mode, org-mode, > outline-minor-mode (and allout), orgstruct-mode. Having to remember > different bindings for how to hide/reveal/zoom to a subtree in each > mode is a nightmare. I would love to see some standardization here > with more mode authors talking to each other. > > On a related topic, if I have S-{left,right} on my org-disputed-keys > list, this breaks using them for changing a timestamp by one-day > increments, even though I don't consider that a clashing binding. I > guess I am arguing that this is a minor bug with `org-key' being too > indiscriminate in when it filters bindings. Why do you then have these keys on your list? What are you using them for? How is org-mode supposed to know in what situations you don't what org-mode to use them? - Carsten