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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1627153067; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=xUsCDRFKauSrMjLGUok4PVcnrkScLh58GUUP/zjuId8=; b=tRp7lotp0mhrKtSVomBFtnF6G++eG4DGDZhw6H7im9OSbnQr4hlP/jGd7RQ+9D9HRlintw fRD0xD9O06HmYC03GlVEe8s6kwp5bpt+yrX8GUcpxzZnUQmFGjsZc3QAlRntArzMH1JMfR FZa/HC8X8QtHU/LNUpsTzBjzVu+1uBggybYd12TpCu6fDwcwpQFrArru5md0Enub8U4vS9 8OonDEACqZ9+5dorC5y1NsGI5KglhAR3yUmLPG8oN3L5hcfwCSeVpB2TpKdst0PiYRcOFA l8nDadtsmHYq9DtfcbZ7xLay/Z+2ZqNTDz/nmZHmbnscl3tMqoBSUEnkhdrzHg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1627153067; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=D6jgHJSRyTZBNLwYzxW/uF1r/NEC2hvGZkMGcHBkxID0Ad1I6sIZnEiHdhRkov5ScsrKO6 RUQd7OV6myZgXPz2Hmo/chsy3IUqIlDGnTWx9chn98CWjjRaXjg2O+TFqi6EdQh4sXCh3k j6RUqyUSheaUPMiJkfGtUHqsuSzu8T3Mzx/lBiebeCycHTquKODWkP5miqC9cOChcUrPPx wzLVpL9VnyJmNryHcHzEPcO7hnAaX1fkCI9nGwCS8+AMW1rUNdhvVHZIYqRbv/Lg49osOX 47SRkm49XU5IFIxkv/eRzEKW2w5XGcYdLBfVromVzPH9Ox4fu6lRiCbWu4IBWg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=verizon.net header.s=a2048 header.b=DhHjVtLM; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=verizon.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=verizon.net header.s=a2048 header.b=DhHjVtLM; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=verizon.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9FF221C7A2 X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 7bXhqG1N/HoK On 7/23/21 10:06 PM, Tim Cross wrote: > > André A. Gomes writes: > >> Hi, >> >> The project's documentation refers to headings and headlines as >> synonyms. Relying on a single definition would be beneficial. If I had >> to choose between the two, I'd go with heading. >> >> If the community finds this valuable, I could prepare a patch. >> > > I think heading is better than headline - to me headline is a line at > the top of the buffer (like a newpaper headline). Note that in addition > to changes in the manual, it will probably be necessary to make changes > to variable and function names in the code. This may require marking > some old names as obsolete and creating aliases to allow a transition to > the new names and avoid breakage etc. > Since org requires outline.el, org.el line 4793, why not follow and mirror outline.el conventions? It appears that outline.el uses ` "header" for some early set-up(?) functions and "heading" for what appears to provide the outline itself. Furthermore, "headline" shows up only in comments, and only four or five times, at that. After all, org is an, "Outline-based notes management and organize." Best, Charlie Millar