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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.37 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 37074301D2 X-Spam-Score: -2.37 X-TUID: EYvaHv4RQHmX Potentially related, org-mode is accepting this malformed timestamp from[1]: ``` <2016-02-14 Sun ++y> ``` The org-mode documentation[2] only includes REST with TIME, defining TIME as "H:MMREST". The above does not have any TIME but it accepts the timestamp anyway: ``` (timestamp :type active :range-type nil :raw-value "<2016-02-14 Sun ++y>" :year-start 2016 :month-start 2 :day-start 14 :hour-start nil :minute-start nil :year-end 2016 :month-end 2 :day-end 14 :hour-end nil :minute-end nil ) ``` Perhaps that grammar is wrong and REST needs to be separated from TIME? [1] https://github.com/howardabrams/pdx-emacs-hackers/blob/bfb7bd640fdf0ce3def21f9fc591ed35d776b26d/workshops/org-mode-gtd-feature-demo.org#L183 [2] https://orgmode.org/worg/org-syntax.html#Timestamps -- Tom Alexander pgp: https://fizz.buzz/pgp.asc