From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Manish Subject: Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:27:12 +0530 Message-ID: References: <0F3A5DC4-D191-472D-BCA6-7978CEB308F9@uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LOroj-0004Rz-14 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:57:17 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LOroi-0004RE-4G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:57:16 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53407 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LOroh-0004Qo-QD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:57:15 -0500 Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.142.187]:41426) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LOrog-0001E9-Tw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:57:15 -0500 Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1919338tia.10 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:57:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ulf Stegemann Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: > Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: >> >>> Hi Carsten, >>> >>> Carsten Dominik wrote: >>> >>>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a >>>>> "

" structure in HTML export? >>>>> >>>>> I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The >>>>> documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied >>>>> and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work >>>>> fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea >>>>> would be even better. >>>> >>>> Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be. Can >>>> you try again to explain? >>> >>> of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input box >>> but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This >>> allows to give literal examples with "variables" that can be changed >>> directly inside the page before being copied and pasted. >> >> Hmmm, but why would you want to edit them in the text window, if you >> will paste them into an editor anyway, where you probably can edit >> them a lot easier? Or are you talking about pasting examples >> directly into an interpreter input stream? > > yes, in the concrete case the documentation was about a rather complex > system and software setup and the "examples" were mainly meant to be > copied and pasted directly into an terminal emu ... with variable things > like host-, path-, user names an so on. Of course, one could paste this > in an editor first to change something but as the changes would be > rather minimal this would prove to be a bit clumsy. > > Actually nobody seems to do it like this. I asked the target group how > they handle this and they told me, they just selected the text up to the > first variable, pasted it into the terminal, typed their variable value > into the terminal and then selected the rest of the example to complete > their command line(s). Ditto. Some of the documents I prepared for a team to follow was also used exactly like that: copy-paste a small section, enter some text by hand in terminal, copy-paste the remaining portion. What happens when you edit the text in text area and save the HTML file? Does the modification get saved? In any case, seems like a useful option to have. Seconded. -- Manish