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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 2adb3069b0e04-52cd6441043sm157597e87.251.2024.06.21.03.27.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:27:04 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: New custom option `org-cite-csl-sentence-case-bibtex-titles' To: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s_Simonyi?= Cc: emacs-orgmode list References: <87zfswtg3u.fsf@localhost> <87o7948sua.fsf@localhost> <87zfrjbxxn.fsf@localhost> Content-Language: en-US, ru-RU From: Max Nikulin Mail-Followup-To: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s_Simonyi?= , emacs-orgmode list In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::132; envelope-from=manikulin@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x132.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: 2.65 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7289876985 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.65 X-TUID: 8BhXGo1tfEnP On 19/06/2024 16:27, András Simonyi wrote: > On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 13:48, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> I had a hope that it might alleviate the issue and to make things >> working out of the box for more users. [...] > Of course it could be checked whether > a CSL style contains explicit instructions about how to format titles > and skip sentence-case conversion of input for those but this > probably would not > solve the problems of users who do not want the conversion at all. Do you mean using title (original) case despite some style requites sentence case for English entries? I believed that fields should be surrounded with double braces {{...}} this case and the only issue is difference of original capitalization and result of conversion to sentence case and then back to title case. >> It is not clear for me why `org-cite-csl-sentence-case-bibtex-titles' is >> a part of Org, not of citeproc-el. The only thing that Org can do is to >> pass it to citeproc-el. It is not configurable per .org file and likely >> it should not be. From my point of view it might be more suitable per >> .bib file. Anyway it is almost unrelated to Org. > > citeproc-el doesn't have customizable user options by design because > it was conceived as a relatively low level > rendering library. Also, it's used by several user-facing packages by > now in addition to Org (org-ref, citar etc.) so > I think it would be both confusing and difficult to try to keep this > type of customizations in the library. My expectation is that to get consistent results across applications, they should share the same preference. However since your choice is conscious, I do not insist.