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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: "András Simonyi" <andras.simonyi@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: New custom option `org-cite-csl-sentence-case-bibtex-titles'
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:27:04 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4264d65-0ff1-4813-bc76-eb1783b95e92@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOWRwxDqLyYUr-dyMFDUcZJUajbpLQ9Y5=2PZeJH-zFdBb=kxA@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/06/2024 16:27, András Simonyi wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 13:48, Max Nikulin wrote:
> 
>> I had a hope that it might alleviate the issue and to make things
>> working out of the box for more users.
[...]
> Of course it could be checked whether
> a CSL style contains explicit instructions about how to format titles
> and skip  sentence-case conversion of input for those but this
> probably would not
> solve the problems of users who do not want the conversion at all.

Do you mean using title (original) case despite some style requites 
sentence case for English entries? I believed that fields should be 
surrounded with double braces {{...}} this case and the only issue is 
difference of original capitalization and result of conversion to 
sentence case and then back to title case.

>> It is not clear for me why `org-cite-csl-sentence-case-bibtex-titles' is
>> a part of Org, not of citeproc-el. The only thing that Org can do is to
>> pass it to citeproc-el. It is not configurable per .org file and likely
>> it should not be. From my point of view it might be more suitable per
>> .bib file. Anyway it is almost unrelated to Org.
> 
> citeproc-el doesn't have customizable user options by design because
> it was conceived as a relatively low level
> rendering library. Also, it's used by several user-facing packages by
> now in addition to Org (org-ref, citar etc.) so
> I think it would be both confusing and difficult to try to keep this
> type of customizations in the library.

My expectation is that to get consistent results across applications, 
they should share the same preference. However since your choice is 
conscious, I do not insist.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-21 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-11 15:33 [PATCH] oc-csl: New custom option `org-cite-csl-sentence-case-bibtex-titles' András Simonyi
2024-05-11 17:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-14  9:58   ` András Simonyi
2024-05-17 13:34     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-17 11:39       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-18 15:52         ` András Simonyi
2024-06-19  9:27           ` András Simonyi
2024-06-19 14:36             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-20  5:56               ` András Simonyi
2024-06-21 10:27             ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2024-05-15 11:48 ` Max Nikulin

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