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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1656702545; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=poHJ3JSIbAbEr0YPDx6G1yt2myyNAok1hDCpmfxnny0=; b=Cvb8dp8WddvhM64dZBYYAji2oShXz3Tx7ZnUz39LU4rirML0a/3oSFa2qlINiAGYa4qkSt Rbwje6YEZUxx1fwW9OS2WhFuhtQmtU3AW9CKw/59JZS68yECuzpGIqB4kFDtje8OMHTjdv 4T5ZddOXKtIEpPJ2fo1WQQRSmRH2nDEK4ehNRJteKnkjoQI03OPKamtTdnMW9zAskieQ1l 8vi6GNRtTPYaUJruuSn5MCXwMzRa/5ZbiCyXBOxwLIdeERSRiMPO3L65zqkln27dvrxZhp VpqYopZxLx/OPKtyQgvJIhfD1ZHKbAU5URED5MWtn/re3pk2USfLoFjVaGbLhA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1656702545; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=JnpqzS/KEAYEEadhtbjOKsX122tO2uLwKoGY0XdK8we9RAanH+ecN+zQgD3kbIfknipSxo D5ogMNjsUoCKJ9LHbv0t0xgyaQyIL5NxwvPwqeiJgfH6ruFBD4OyaO0d3jMKeXr9HnU7bN nyg6T4tXVLK1b3gi76aLb007LNqz70KM9TDBOKPKnZlNksKCL0zzOfN9vqakhq8dzd1F+l YqFhaoWQstJwU3ysfrnT76x3xONZnzLV/KfmipwXep2n1pYCW0a7kY9+Swr9SlB0Xv80Tt arbzTUDBuENoSiNEk19KV4v9K5cuhCndXiMZPsUZRM90Fkkq87F8DfDgrRIYtw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=fastmail.com header.s=fm2 header.b=opsL1ZS7; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=kjKzZXZg; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=fastmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 8.66 X-Spam: Yes Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=fastmail.com header.s=fm2 header.b=opsL1ZS7; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=kjKzZXZg; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=fastmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3B90A3DF3F X-Spam-Score: 8.66 X-Migadu-Spam: Yes X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: EdpM3OgaqsjQ --e1286493a1444552a174367f1fa6419c Content-Type: text/plain My two cents on this: * Why not just have a single fallback person that takes the hit of having to use a JS based payment method in the meantime? * Or why not just keep the address and encourage mailing donations themselves to a single location (probably FSF office, no?) I might not know anything about how wiring money works in the context of requiring JS for the transactions, but I feel like if it were just one person to receive payment, or a single address, you could probably remove half of the problems as a result while Librepay becomes more readily available and less dependent on JS based payment APIs. Sincerely, Sam On Fri, Jul 1, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Michael Powe wrote: > > On 6/30/2022 23:53, Tim Cross wrote: > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > > I agree that links to liberapay might someday work without the donor's > > running nonfree software. But that is not likely to occur this year, > > and for it to occur in this decade is a long shot. > > > > So please don't put links to liberapay into GNU package web pages. > >> > >> Please explain how you can argue that position when the FSF has such a > >> link on their web page? Why is it OK for the FSF to do this to raise > >> funds, but not acceptable for projects to do the same? > > Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii? Why ask why? > > (I suspect that RMS doesn't have final say over that decision.) > > Thanks. > > mp > > -- > "Do not neglect to do good, and to share what you have." - Hebrews 13:16a > Michael Powe > Naugatuck CT USA > powem@ctpowe.net > > > --e1286493a1444552a174367f1fa6419c Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My two cents on= this:
  • Why not just have a single fallback person that = takes the hit of having to use a JS based payment method in the meantime= ?
  • Or why not just keep the address and encourage mailing don= ations themselves to a single location (probably FSF office, no?)
I might not know anything about how wiring money works in th= e context of requiring JS for the transactions, but I feel like if it we= re just one person to receive payment, or a single address, you could pr= obably remove half of the problems as a result while Librepay becomes mo= re readily available and less dependent on JS based payment APIs.

Sincerely,

Sam

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Michael Powe wr= ote:

On 6/30/2022 23:53, Tim Cross wrote:
> Richard= Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:=
>
> I agree that links to liberapay m= ight someday work without the donor's
> running nonfree= software.  But that is not likely to occur this year,
> and for it to occur in this decade is a long shot.
= >
> So please don't put links to liberapay into GNU = package web pages.
>>
>> Please = explain how you can argue that position when the FSF has such a
>> link on their web page? Why is it OK for the FSF to do th= is to raise
>> funds, but not acceptable for project= s to do the same?

Why are there interstate = highways in Hawaii? Why ask why?

(I suspect= that RMS doesn't have final say over that decision.)

=
Thanks.

mp

-- 
"Do not neglect to do good, and to share = what you have." - Hebrews 13:16a
Michael Powe
Naugatuck CT USA



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