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[77.224.72.126]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 15-20020a05600c028f00b004065d67c3c9sm8383953wmk.8.2023.10.08.04.32.04 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 08 Oct 2023 04:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0dk1LsK50NFn7tQX0a0T5hXJ" Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 13:26:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.0 Subject: Re: [FR] A more general case than footnotes To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: Org-mode References: <6afd51ff-0163-e43e-af2d-4b7129cc6734@gmail.com> <87fs2mznxd.fsf@localhost> <87y1gey3e2.fsf@localhost> <8ba636d2-7fd6-784c-75c7-128645343133@gmail.com> <87wmvxpj4t.fsf@localhost> From: Maske Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <87wmvxpj4t.fsf@localhost> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32a; envelope-from=maske1foro@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -38 X-Spam_score: -3.9 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.818, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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Thanks On 08/10/2023 11:18, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Maske writes: > >>>> *[n:102@978-84-362-7195-9]* The hash character is important in orgmode. >>> May you explain the purpose of @978-84-... part? >>> You seem to assume that a footnote always has a single reference, >>> which may or may not be the case in practice. >> If there would be more than one reference, a behavior like that of footnotes would be appropriate? > If this was a question to me, I do not fully understand it. > >> The purpose of the @978-84-... part: >> @978-84-362-7195-9 would work like the ID for internal links: [[id:978-84-362-7195-9]]. That would allow jumping to the correct heading from any file. >> I am not a programmer, so the syntax I am sure could be more solid. Example: >> >> >> ** Reference in file A >> :PROPERTIES: >> :ID:       978-84-362-7195-9 >> :END: >> ... >> A “comment line” starts with a hash character (#) [n:102@978-84-362-7195-9] and either a whitespace character or the immediate end of the line. >> ... >> >> >> ** Notes in file B >> [[id:978-84-362-7195-9]]: Link to heading in file A >> >> [n:102@978-84-362-7195-9]: Link to an exact point in file A. Where the point is defined by the LABEL 102, and the file can be find thanks to the ID 978-84-362-7195-9 > I am a bit confused. > Do you propose footnotes to have definition in different file? Or do you > want a link to arbitrary point in different file? > > For footnotes, we will need to arrange export to search the definition > and include it into the exported file, while links have different set of > requirements. I propose --------------0dk1LsK50NFn7tQX0a0T5hXJ Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi, Ihor

I overlooked the aspect of exporting.

I propose links to arbitrary points in different files.

Furthermore, I think it would be a very nice new feature, probably more opinions than mine should be heard.

Thanks

On 08/10/2023 11:18, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
Maske <maske1foro@gmail.com> writes:


*[n:102@978-84-362-7195-9]* The hash character is important in orgmode.

May you explain the purpose of @978-84-... part?
You seem to assume that a footnote always has a single reference,
which may or may not be the case in practice.

If there would be more than one reference, a behavior like that of footnotes would be appropriate?

If this was a question to me, I do not fully understand it.


The purpose of the @978-84-... part:
@978-84-362-7195-9 would work like the ID for internal links: [[id:978-84-362-7195-9]]. That would allow jumping to the correct heading from any file.


      

        
I am not a programmer, so the syntax I am sure could be more solid.  Example:


** Reference in file A
:PROPERTIES:
:ID:       978-84-362-7195-9
:END:
...
A “comment line” starts with a hash character (#) [n:102@978-84-362-7195-9] and either a whitespace character or the immediate end of the line.
...


** Notes in file B
[[id:978-84-362-7195-9]]: Link to heading in file A

[n:102@978-84-362-7195-9]: Link to an exact point in file A. Where the point is defined by the LABEL 102, and the file can be find thanks to the ID 978-84-362-7195-9


      

      
I am a bit confused.
Do you propose footnotes to have definition in different file? Or do you
want a link to arbitrary point in different file?

For footnotes, we will need to arrange export to search the definition
and include it into the exported file, while links have different set of
requirements.


    

    


    

    I propose 

  
  


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