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From: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Samuel Loury <konubinix@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Redoing the current tag/property parser in a real grammar [was: Re: [RFC] Quoting property names in tag/property matches]
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2023 15:14:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d57f875c-2be0-c2e6-3da0-a553de5f837f@vodafonemail.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkelhwyz.fsf@localhost>

On 2023-09-02  09:10, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de> writes:

>> This all calls for a proper parser, based on peg or bovine or whatever.
>> Hopefully that parser would still keep backward compatibility, but
>> that's probably wishful thinking.
> 
> Backward compatibility will be easy - just leave the current code when
> old query version is detected. We should better focus on the new syntax
> in future and leave the current syntax as compatibility layer that will
> be eventually deprecated.

Agreed except for the deprecation part.  I think Org should be big enough
to have two parsers: One along the lines of the current one (infix, DWIM,
easy to type) and one along the lines of org-ql (sexp, better extensible,
more flexible, harder to type).  Ideally, it should be even possible to
embed the infix-one into the sexp-one.

It should also be possible to put the current infix parser onto a more
stable ground as well, based on a formal grammar, providing at least
parentheses for grouping and negation, and that without breaking backward
compatibility.

Let's rephrase that way: If I were to redo the current parser as
mentioned in the previous paragraph, would these changes "eventually be
deprecated"?  (Which doesn't necessarily mean that I promise to do so,
of course.)



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-02 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-23  7:57 [BUG?] Matching tags: & operator no more implicit between tags and special property Samuel Loury
2023-08-23 10:21 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-23 10:37   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 10:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 10:38   ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-23 14:00     ` [RFC] Quoting property names in tag/property matches [Was: [BUG?] Matching tags: & operator no more implicit between tags and special property] Jens Schmidt
2023-08-23 15:55       ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-24  7:30         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24  7:32       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24  8:52         ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-25 18:46           ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-26 10:16             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 11:53               ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-26 12:00                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 12:19                   ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-26 12:22                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 12:54                       ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-27  7:11                         ` Samuel Loury
2023-08-27  7:43                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-01 16:48                             ` Jens Schmidt
2023-09-01 23:59                               ` Tom Gillespie
2023-09-02  0:02                                 ` Tom Gillespie
2023-09-02  7:10                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-02 13:14                                 ` Jens Schmidt [this message]
2023-09-03  7:04                                   ` Redoing the current tag/property parser in a real grammar [was: Re: [RFC] Quoting property names in tag/property matches] Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-02 13:18                                 ` [RFC] Quoting property names in tag/property matches Jens Schmidt
2023-08-30 16:28                         ` [RFC] Quoting property names in tag/property matches [Was: [BUG?] Matching tags: & operator no more implicit between tags and special property] Jens Schmidt
2023-08-31  8:08                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 10:24                             ` Jens Schmidt
2023-09-03  6:53                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-03  9:25                           ` Jens Schmidt

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