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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alphapapa.net; s=dreamhost; t=1711899812; bh=GN2Fk0gicDq0nCdtRSdlLo0hl+FWcFhHALDEtwLOEJk=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VXEgp46wv5LP5KeLS1juq0uZ0sfJlYgQ7B2l1Gl+3EAE9lQVni/AgED09lHYiNb1e gT16HcMkUvjUTbvYLJcMVMymGTd2JjPUSI70M2UcKvXFbHQh859ZZgg52uI8xizUsh U22DVguGDOhQHwYV0K8FbDUktLQEfSsutoR9bZZtMb4wAUQzJ/wZx69AfI1w0vzaPt qjYti/MtHZ4sUyatCCPjxnfacf9lyZUyc0m7HhfjggelMTp60Gv1xJTeSHWGl7CkDG q8vmYe3mOY5FEycmCHLuvjWNNRI1bhehMxH3Y0FnYkmGFuTjCo9dM60bK1AboXtbiQ raSDsKzcO23ew== Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 10:43:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: How to organize tasks about Worg within Worg documents To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org References: <57934e1d-37eb-4b75-b8ed-6666dcc3848e@alphapapa.net> <87le6957ha.fsf@localhost> <14b3b7df-baeb-45b5-a530-aa11ccf09d0c@alphapapa.net> <87plvkf1p0.fsf@localhost> <00a7258c-d3ef-4a22-ae08-35c62d71cc27@alphapapa.net> <87le659hgv.fsf@localhost> <38e2ca8a-175b-4f74-aae5-39f6d605a6b8@alphapapa.net> <87le62twcc.fsf@localhost> <1ec8fb7c-9c3a-4773-8f99-ba80a2b141ed@alphapapa.net> <871q7utrzf.fsf@localhost> <8734s9fjxg.fsf@localhost> <040d14ef-13c2-4955-a059-91f29b29008e@alphapapa.net> <87il140zf8.fsf@localhost> Content-Language: en-US From: Adam Porter In-Reply-To: <87il140zf8.fsf@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Spam-Score: -7.35 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: F26E632A72 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.35 X-TUID: jxQP8MS4/fjf On 3/30/24 05:47, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Adam Porter writes: > >> Using a normal heading for a task would "commandeer" the structure of >> the document, which I think is a real problem. > > Not really. If some section is incomplete, marking it "TODO" means that > it should be completed. And the details might be listed in the logbook > notes, for example. The section name itself does not necessarily have to > details what needs to be done. > > We have multiple instances of such "TODO" items in WORG, some also > include comments on what should be done. > > On the other hand, inlinetasks are more concrete and immediately mark > both where exactly and what needs to be done. You make a good point: for some cases, an entire section/heading may need "to be done," so giving the whole heading a TODO makes sense. For other tasks, an inline one would be more appropriate. > I am not 100% sure if we need to constrain "TODO" items to one or > another style. Global todo list, marking existing sections as TODO, and > inlinetasks all may have their place depending on the situation. > > The policy we may want to set is whether "TODO" keywords and notes > should be displayed to all the users. WORG has this set all over the > place - some TODO headings are marked to be not exported, some TODO > keywords are hidden via #+options: todo:nil, some notes are placed into > # comments. > > May we have some kind of css-based toggle that will enable "developer > mode", revealing all the todo keywords, inlinetasks, and notes? Then, we > hide the "unfinished" parts from users by default, but let them see what > can be contributed? I like the idea of a visual toggle very much, so I'm certainly in favor of that. I'm not sure that we must have a constraint on the way TODOs are written, but having some limitations on or conventions about it might make such a visual toggle easier to implement (as well as other tools one might use to collect and visualize tasks across the project).