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I have attached >> an example of such an addition. > > Will it be useful? > > Technically, adding the command name will increase the Org Guide size, > which is a bit against its idea of compactness. Wouldn't it just put additional information on the same line as the keybinding? > On the other hand, new users may benefit from seeing the command names > alongside with the bindings, especially users of pre-packages Emacs > where the bindings may be shadowed by evil-mode and the likes. > > WDYT? I think this would result in a more coherent experience between the manuals as the Emacs manual and Org mode manual both provide command names for most of the keybindings. - Adham Omran