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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Matt <matt@excalamus.com>,
	"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 22:19:22 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca733bd2-2d70-4ac9-91ef-1cd29a045a20@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frsu1yhc.fsf@localhost>

On 30/06/2024 18:06, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
> 
>> https://debbugs.gnu.org/67259
>>
>> Notice that the report is for *interactive* sessions. Org babel sessions
>> are not so interactive. They are to maintain state, not to interact with
>> users directly...
> 
> You are not right. We have legitimate cases when people can switch to
> session buffer, enter commands there, switch back to Org buffers,
> send code blocks to the same session, and so on.

Timings are still important part of interactive sessions and ob-shell 
has no chance to simulate them having just block of commands.

By the way, dash does not support bracketed paste since it is a minimal 
shell mainly for interpreting scripts. So result of pasting several 
commands at once is different from bash. I do not think it is related to 
dash bugs.

>> Possible voluntary decision is to consider every session source block
>> similar to "C-x C-e" in bash prompt, so nothing should become implicit
>> stdin of commands. Content of a source block should be saved into a
>> temporary file then "source /path/to/block_content" command should be
>> send to the session buffer. Likely command depends on shell.
> 
> This may work, but we should at least echo the original commands into
> session buffer, because users may want to examine them.

I have no idea which way bash or readline function 
edit-and-execute-command is implemented, but commands are echoed when 
editor is closed. Anyway it may greatly vary across shells.

I am unaware if it is possible to detect if bracketed paste is 
implemented and to send input as bracketed paste. Perhaps some escape 
sequences are involved. ob-shell might offer variants for sessions: dumb 
stdin, source a temporary file, or bracketed paste. Anything besides 
stdin (with its confusing differences from interactive sessions) is 
almost certainly requires shell-specific code. And `shell' is likely not 
suitable with its TERM=dumb.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-30 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 11:17 bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Alain.Cochard
2023-10-25 15:12 ` Leo Butler
2023-10-25 16:14   ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-25 16:47     ` Leo Butler
2023-10-25 16:59     ` yaxp
2023-10-26  8:44   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-26 13:23     ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-26 13:44       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-27 18:26         ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-28  5:22           ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-30 10:50           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-06 13:32             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-06 18:25               ` Matt
2023-11-07  8:55                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-08 19:41                   ` Matt
2023-11-09 12:14                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-09 17:48                       ` Matt
2023-11-15 16:32                         ` Matt
2023-11-15 18:04                           ` Matt
2023-11-16  9:32                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-16 19:03                             ` Matt
2023-11-16 19:46                               ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-16 20:54                                 ` Matt
2023-11-17  9:22                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-17  9:55                                     ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-17 10:17                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-17 15:32                                         ` Leo Butler
2023-11-17 15:47                                         ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18 10:37                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-21 19:01                                             ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-22 17:06                                               ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-19  4:17                                           ` Non-emacs shell (Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands) Max Nikulin
2023-11-21 15:33                                             ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  8:04                                         ` bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Max Nikulin
2023-11-18 10:43                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-18 16:18                                             ` Max Nikulin
2024-06-29 15:40                                           ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-17 22:07                                     ` Matt
2023-11-18  3:11                                       ` Forget about "bash -c bash file.sh" (Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands) Max Nikulin
2023-11-18  8:11                                         ` Matt
2023-11-18  8:29                                           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  8:43                                             ` Matt
2023-11-18  8:54                                               ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  9:09                                                 ` Matt
2023-11-18  9:11                                                   ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18 10:47                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-18  8:19                                       ` bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  9:02                                         ` Matt
2023-11-18 15:51                                       ` Matt
2024-06-30  8:57                                         ` Max Nikulin
2024-06-30 11:06                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-30 15:19                                             ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2024-06-30 15:28                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-30 15:48                                                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-06-30 16:42                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01  9:41                                                     ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-01  9:51                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-01 10:54                                                         ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-01 16:01                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-03 11:06                                                             ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-03 12:33                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-26 14:44 ` Russell Adams
2023-10-27 11:47   ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-06 18:01     ` Matt
2023-11-07  0:51       ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-18  8:09 ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-18  8:36   ` Bruno Barbier

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