From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 8MdMBdZZUl/NfgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 15:14:30 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id EKc4AdZZUl8sDQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 15:14:30 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DC059404D2 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2020 15:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60394 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEDQ2-0007Bn-Bn for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 11:14:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46076) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEDPi-0007Bb-45 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 11:14:06 -0400 Received: from mta.vmaly.com ([94.242.65.182]:55064) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEDPf-0002tL-OV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 11:14:05 -0400 To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: hj-orgmode-1@hj.proberto.com Subject: documentation feature: typical .org files as starting points along with screencasts Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:13:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: none client-ip=94.242.65.182; envelope-from=hj-orgmode-1@hj.proberto.com; helo=mta.vmaly.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/04 11:13:53 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.01 X-TUID: viyuEzMTP02c  Hello,  First of all, orgmode rocks!   I am trying to work with with orgmode  for a few months now, and I feel like I am still only scratching the surface. I've read the manual, and the online docs, yet fully functional access to some features eludes me still.   I would find it tremendously useful if, perhaps as a part of the documentation, there were several sample .org files, at various levels of complexity (features used) _along_ _with_ a quick and simple screen cast of its features being used in a real-life scenario. ( I find it most useful for such screen casts to display key presses as they occur ... is there a "plugin" which would 1) show the keys being pressed and 2) also show the resulting functions being invoked by those keystrokes? ). Repeatedly I've spent more than an hour trying to figure out what happened when I haven't noticed that by mistake that I've pressed some weird key combo which has placed my orgmode/emacs session in an incomprehensible state - e.g. narrowing a buffer. Had I known which keys I had pressed by mistake, or at least the functions that they involved, I could have looked up the manual to see how to "undo" such mess. But when you don't know that your state is being called "narrowing buffer", you have no clue what just happened and that you should find out how to "widen" it again. ( That is very, VERY frustrating for an emacs/orgmode newbie. Someone please advise how to turn on a log of keystrokes and functions being invoked by those keystrokes. ... Consider having this on as default for newbies. )  It seems to me that to get people started without unnecessary frustrations, we might want to put into the docs something like: To include feature : timestamp-based unique IDs : Configure emacs thusly : and then see how this works ; ...  same for features like  HTML export, literal programming, custom timestamp (perhaps with down-to-seconds resolution) custom, etc  I believe if I saw in a few screen casts how the orgmode "professionals" use orgmode, and had access to their sample orgmode files which I could follow along and literally identically modify during the screencast, I would be much father (and perhaps even happier) with the use of orgmode. I think the most crucial point for newbies is being able to literally follow the screencast along, perfectly replicating the screen cast results in their emacs / evil / spacemacs setup. If people would want to send me URLs for their sample .org files for which they also have a demo screen cast on how to use their features, I would like to pull these together and create a section for the docs with these.  Guys! You are a wonderful bunch and you are perfecting an amazing software! ... Let the world get more of a taste of your amazing work.   Thanks so much for orgmode!     John