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From: "Eddward DeVilla" <eddward@gmail.com>
To: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:58:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b71b18520710081958v3db0292lcba94a9283e5e5e3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ilxnh44.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>

I'm not sure we are talking about the same things really.

On 10/8/07, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> "Eddward DeVilla" <eddward@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > My only real issue is that I tend to think of task dependencies in
> > terms of the other tasks a given task is waiting on rather than what
> > other tasks are waiting on a given task.
>
> Ok, then:
>
> * Task A
> * Task B
>   :PROPERTIES:
>   :>TODO: {TODO 'previous "DONE"}
>   :END:
>
>   => becomes TODO when previous tasks is DONE.

I'm not really trying to deal with linear C depends and B which
depends on A type things.  Those are easy.  I don't really need org to
change the states for me.  It's more like, work can't even begin E
until A, C & D are done.  Work can't start F until A & B are done.
The reasons for the dependencies could be anything.  (Requires a
certain person's time, requires requisite info/result generated in
other/blocking steps, artistic flare)  Given a set of such ordering
constraints, and estimated times to complete a step, what is the
soonest a step can be started or completed?  Can I use this info to
generate a table of tasks with project start and end dates?

> > This feels a little backward to me, but I could still use it.  I'd
> > still have to think about how to use this to make projections, but all
> > the info is there for that.
>
> Sure!
>
> Two ideas again:
>
> 1) one aspect of Org is that it is very *fast*; we can change the TODO
>    state of an item with just one keystroke.  Making this change trigger
>    actions should require some kind of double-check, otherwise we could
>    end up with a lot of changes that we're not fully aware of.
>
>    One way to check the triggered changes is to build an actions pool
>    gathering all actions to be performed, then ask the user if he wants
>    to perform them.
>
> 2) In my proposal, the actions are just triggered by TODO state changes.
>    But each action could affect or be affected by any property.
>
> * Task A
>   :PROPERTIES:
>   :COLOR: red
>   :END:
>
> * Task B
>   :PROPERTIES:
>   :>TODO: {COLOR 'previous "green"}
>   :END:
>
>   => becomes TODO when previous tasks property COLOR is "green".

Again, interesting, but different from where I was going.  I'm not
after editing as a side effect.  Just planning and organizing.  In a
previous message you said it isn't as complex as package dependencies.
 I guess what I was after might be.

Edd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-09  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-08  6:56 depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically Rainer Stengele
2007-10-08 13:26 ` Denis Bueno
2007-10-08 13:43   ` Russell Adams
2007-10-08 13:52     ` Russell Adams
2007-10-08 19:48       ` Carsten Dominik
2007-10-08 20:12         ` Russell Adams
2007-10-09 10:13           ` Carsten Dominik
2007-10-08 14:49     ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-08 20:55       ` Bastien
2007-10-08 20:26         ` Adam Spiers
2007-10-09  2:15           ` Bastien
2007-10-09  3:03             ` John Wiegley
2007-10-09  3:47               ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-09  9:27                 ` Richard G Riley
2007-10-09 14:39                   ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-10 17:20                     ` Bastien
2007-10-09 10:35                 ` Bastien
2007-10-09 10:32               ` Bastien
2007-10-11 14:46             ` Carsten Dominik
2007-10-11 15:53               ` pete phillips
2007-10-11 16:22                 ` Sebastjan Trepca
2007-10-11 16:37                 ` Russell Adams
2007-10-11 17:10                   ` pete phillips
2007-10-11 17:55                     ` Russell Adams
2007-10-11 18:45                       ` pete phillips
2007-10-14  1:01                         ` Charles Cave
2007-10-14  2:42                           ` Bastien
2007-10-11 19:46                       ` Bastien
2007-10-11 21:12                       ` Rainer Stengele
2007-10-11 21:19                         ` Leo
2007-10-11 23:54                           ` Piotr Zielinski
2007-10-12  3:14                             ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-12 13:50                               ` Bastien
2007-10-12 17:09                         ` Jason F. McBrayer
2007-10-12 17:03                 ` Jason F. McBrayer
2007-10-11 16:53               ` Bastien
2007-10-12  9:21               ` John Wiegley
2007-10-08 20:35         ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-09  2:42           ` Bastien
2007-10-09  2:01             ` Russell Adams
2007-10-09  3:35               ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-09  3:59                 ` Russell Adams
2007-10-09  4:55                   ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-09 10:42                   ` Bastien
2007-10-09  3:37               ` Bastien
2007-10-09  2:58             ` Eddward DeVilla [this message]
2007-10-09 10:41               ` Bastien
2007-10-09 14:53                 ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-11 12:44                   ` Bastien
2007-10-11 12:22                     ` Russell Adams
2007-10-11 14:03                       ` Bastien
2007-10-11 13:21                         ` Russell Adams
2007-10-11 13:31                         ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-12  9:13                         ` John Wiegley
2007-10-09  9:44       ` Christian Egli
2007-10-09 10:53         ` Bastien
2007-10-09 15:21         ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-11 12:44           ` Bastien

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